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Content-Language: en-US To: Vivien Kraus , Felix Lechner , guix-devel@gnu.org References: <874jgqk90z.fsf@lease-up.com> <2fceb085-f113-03f8-a950-4f6e43203c6a@fannys.me> <87v896i0e3.fsf@lease-up.com> <81610f0c-160f-6ace-c135-5024717712f1@fannys.me> <8b55d5859db6d7e09e953cb9edadfd8325d10dc0.camel@planete-kraus.eu> From: MSavoritias In-Reply-To: <8b55d5859db6d7e09e953cb9edadfd8325d10dc0.camel@planete-kraus.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.95.52.48; envelope-from=email@msavoritias.me; helo=mail.webarch.email X-Spam_score_int: -45 X-Spam_score: -4.6 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.924, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.19 X-Spam-Score: 0.19 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A3C1764E63 X-TUID: 8SWXwjLjoZMu On 12/10/23 17:56, Vivien Kraus wrote: > Le dimanche 10 décembre 2023 à 17:45 +0200, MSavoritias a écrit : >>> There is also a trust issue. For acceptance, we need bridging. For >>> bridging, we need policing. And for policing, we need people with >>> time. >> That's a good question yeah. Whether we want bridging that is. >> Personally I am leaning that we don't. >> >> Because bridging can ruin the experience of people that use XMPP. But >> I >> can see it either way. > Maybe we could do something a little smarter, like having sneek deliver > messages in both IRC and XMPP. > > Vivien There are mirroring ways yeah. That would be a better solution. Because there is biboumi but it basically just creates an IRC room in XMPP. Also sneek should filter stuff probably. Because xmpp allows pictures and long messages and such. So it shouldn't mirror everything as is. I don't know how possible it is though. Maybe some custom setup of something. That said I do have my doubts whether this is more trouble than its worth personally. Given that IRC and XMPP are two very different protocols that are probably gonna attract a different community. MSavoritias