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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, bug-hurd@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1629034630; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=kQZozpcqRzbJp+FmxcxVqxxPmymDsWjvy4HmOeZ1WJQ=; b=ZYdsrdYHnrL+dsgQs8io42UGxIM6iX/nIBFxvlZWUf7gzXD5epTVYEWFi6+6PgOOzrdL6+ 5wmTil0LzYRwFPy8VPY3K6qAaL1Y1C936ldH8ndOc8WFq73ozYyHTztbg6NYICCt45XZRm fqoO4kNKXZJMeNwFtnGxJZ4In5DttdzXMmVXhSw3UjfmqBeO8rIs+Tqwx6rg5kpLW8y3O0 d4yWpm4k3ZacfDb4/OKuo3qLeomEQi3If5Izdw++Pce54wdLDWAN13l3hVMnw6Gi/qhRAY CTK1VPxOQDkvAiPxNcFBzLi7lwunBKDk2GphmpT8P3XBjazmpbf8HOcSb9TFnw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1629034630; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=QwARD6lS9yQRf75xdfdxAvPwkA0YOqcE+QKlRY4J8qCM75yiJx/YkSl0Ln6dHhr8hhDeDD lqpS3fwX/xlDmFnfX6W8CfcSQTqoaQSfeOdq3O/3+O87XTyuqt3m0ffIt3tKVWmF9nzpxR a9odBBTe/p8xUDHRORF92fI37kCx72oprNR7EBs6gBygq42N0PjoLNS09UDL3teQAdh4Tr z1s6NTlrd2fORnxanAC9vGUL0BR35td9yhP7nR6kcG48cHnioXVjUYkMEzKpoE7e02QrT0 jTDAD0z1gnYsbUx05mSZFvtzDC5IZr9CP8NJXk9t5LkYm7LQdwK+KvKpCCa57A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=FSgcCd5j; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=FSgcCd5j; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5AD792A0D4 X-Spam-Score: -0.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: UfdKVZel9sDo Hi, On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:18:20PM +1000, Damien Zammit wrote: > On 11/8/21 11:01 pm, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > It would be interesting to consider dropping the copyright assignment > > requirement for Hurd/Mach/MiG. For what remains primarily a hobby > > project, this looks to me like a hindrance more than anything else. > > I imagine it is slightly inconvenient for new contributors, but not a > hindrance in my opinion. The fact that this process potentially or apparently took (or rather, has been taking) months for Sergey (I don't know when it was initiated), is a pretty good indicator that it is more than a nuisance. > It ensures that FSF has complete control of the licensing. I don't mind that, but I also think the Hurd is not a tactical FSF asset anymore that needs to be kept under tight control. The FSF has enough copyright in the Hurd that it can enforce it whenever it likes, even if other people's copyrighted code (as is already the case with the pfinet stack) is added. Finally, the GPLv2+ code can always be licensed to GPLv3+ once all the GPLv2only code has been removed, no copyright assignments are required there, either. So if the Hurd maintainers would like to drop the requirement (as has been done with GCC and glibc in recent months), I would support that. Michael