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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1654253624; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=2DZNoe2Se9OVoRDEvXJmT1CdhgRuhwztLrW9AN8nC2s=; b=pcSzeHJjMyuBzWl1Yp16S3dXEs/0wJgS8bVDNM2r0y+WGUEKUl+v3QhdEo+9GSOrtqwlJu +Mx5ZaqAGmRa9fUsEKnE94zKQ6eB0yjYno3qEePXW78ZLzHD4xjIXyoSS+LnIEmm4Raa3q IRGcWSxFH9neyxOcOSku1ikuq6BLtLGBG9WUyhgsGBZHEazKIKO10nJpYrMaA/uj/7Ury7 RKrmn5KGYacrJLPMG5bnywdxF/TSp6RFxpAEiE4ifmwLb8cmmk2DUC6rIUPKvVHs7v9t+W rZXdwnPFC/OGz+xUUgBRCc5CImihA94JvomQ4Ao97mFMz9thHbPlTjAhIapO6Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1654253624; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=J9x+6Ffuw1skoVpoF7jxsoSjzMA+42yu+54huB6LuLRG3FTLhU86MoaJuL13CXIxE4sRlU aok/2YHOGXqvYppl3GhRE3feLobYEYMYurHK8YzL4o7DJWQg1kMErGc9CQBoEG4qx1XT0m aEUKp2Du4rjBiZGHYXcJ/0XKVC8phWm3CneCJB/Mr4uXTdhtMXu2UlUDSV/W5HTRttG6TV QibSmITITvURsU1y0asBYPYkWgzlapKhas9/y8eUMFYanO64FCGKUk41OAHo1ZlBWy/0x6 FE3Y53WcH0mweqmlzxCSQ629aQsjknpe3NAIoXCxN738s04wgefs44cKqmsURg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=mej1r0Rq; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=mej1r0Rq; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2D7163681A X-Spam-Score: -5.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: UV1Ry7LM5XJA June 2, 2022 4:00 AM, "Ricardo Wurmus" wrote: > zimoun writes: >=20 >>=20Ah sorry, I overcomplicate the discussion. :-) >=20 >=20Hah, no worries! It=E2=80=99s worth discussing this before we impleme= nt a > workflow that ends up being *more* confusing than the status quo. >=20 >>=20To me, it could be nice to have a tiny script (or Guix extension or >> subcommand), maybe in etc/ which simplifies the workflow; something >> similar to =E2=80=99etc/committer.scm=E2=80=99. >>=20 >>=20The workflow would be: >>=20 >>=20$ edit code >> $ git commit >> $ etc/mentoring.scm >>=20 >>=20where etc/mentoring would generate the patch(es), add X-Debbugs-CC a= nd >> send; assuming a correct ~/.gitconfig. And maybe this script could >> provide a simple hint for configuring git-send-email. >>=20 >>=20Even, we could imagine that this tiny script would hint the user to = run >> =E2=80=9Cguix lint=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cguix style=E2=80=9D before pre= ssing yes at the send step. >=20 >=20All good ideas, though I think setting up =E2=80=9Cgit send-email=E2= =80=9D is a pretty > big problem for many people =E2=80=94 myself included! Would be nice if= that > could be simplified, too. I always use this website to remind myself how to use git send-email: https://git-send-email.io/ We could out that information in the guix manual or link to it. :) >=20 >>=20From my experience, the most confusing is the =E2=80=9Cwait from Deb= bugs ID=E2=80=9D >> part, i.e., check your inbox or spam. And I do not know how it could b= e >> simplified. >=20 >=20Yes, on top of that comes the gray-listing, which increases the waiti= ng > time. >=20 >=20Perhaps=E2=80=A6 we shouldn=E2=80=99t use Debbugs directly. I have a = couple of > annoyances with Debbugs, including the fact that we cannot configure th= e > contents of the emails it sends out. Maybe it is time to implement a > friendlier email-based frontend=E2=80=A6 >=20 >=20-- > Ricardo