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From: MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>
To: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:12:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c12f0bd-967e-2d7d-aa06-234cbd203d58@fannys.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edc4rf7b.fsf@xelera.eu>

On 3/20/24 19:22, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote:

> Hello Ludovic and Guix devel community!
>
> Disclaimer: I've still not read all the relevant threads [3] [4], so
> please forgive me if I repeat some information already provided.
>
> What rights are we talking about?

You are making the same misconception as some other people in the thread 
here.

We are talking about social rules that we have here in the Guix 
community not legal/state rules.


Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we want 
to include them. Any person really that want to change their name at 
some point for some reason.

To that end we listen to their concerns/wishes and we accommodate them.

>
> As a *free software* user do I have the right to redistribute /old/
> copies of the source code and documentation I got in the past from the
> copyright holder, in any form (e.g. print)?... or to use old sources or
> documentation to develop derived work, with _attribution_, without
> asking for consent from the original authors and/or contact the original
> authors to ask them what is their current name?

Copyright is not consent. When we are talking about consent we are 
talking about it in social rules.

See also 
https://www.consentfultech.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Building-Consentful-Tech.pdf 
as a nice paper for consent in tech.

> If yes, I would like to exercise all my rights without being harassed.

Again this has nothing to do with rights granted by states. This is 
about including people and making them feel safe and respected.


MSavoritias

>
> Also, SHW and other organizations (re)distributing free software have
> their rights and should excercise them without being harassed.
>
> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
> [...]
>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-16 15:52 Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-16 17:50 ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 18:24   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:08     ` Christopher Baines
2024-03-16 19:45     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17  7:06       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-16 19:06   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-16 19:49     ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-16 23:16   ` Vivien Kraus
2024-03-16 23:27     ` Tomas Volf
     [not found]     ` <EoCuAq3N681mOIAh7ptCyXiyscM9R0iPDBWId1eS4EbTJ2-ARWNfGuqtXIvmqcJNBl1SQvMM4X6-GiC5LiUv4TJv6J4ritPA3uZ2JBwkAzQ=@protonmail.com>
2024-03-16 23:40       ` Fw: " Ryan Prior
2024-03-16 17:58 ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18  9:50   ` Please hold your horses Simon Tournier
2024-03-16 21:37 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ryan Prior
2024-03-17  9:39   ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2024-03-17  9:47     ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 11:53       ` paul
2024-03-17 11:57         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-17 14:57           ` Richard Sent
2024-03-17 16:28           ` Ian Eure
2024-03-17 12:51         ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-17 23:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-20 15:25         ` contributor uuid (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) bae66428a8ad58eafaa98cb0ab2e512f045974ecf4bf947e32096fae574d99c6
2024-03-17 16:20       ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-03-17 16:55         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:04     ` pinoaffe
2024-03-17 13:03 ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-17 17:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-20 17:22   ` the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21  6:12     ` MSavoritias [this message]
2024-03-21 10:49       ` Attila Lendvai
2024-03-21 11:51       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-21 11:52       ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:08         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-03-21 15:11           ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 22:11             ` Philip McGrath
2024-03-21 16:17           ` pinoaffe
2024-03-21 15:23       ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-03-21 15:27         ` MSavoritias
2024-03-21 15:54           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-03-22  4:33           ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-21 16:18         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-03-21 16:23         ` pinoaffe
2024-03-18  9:28 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 11:47   ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 13:12     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 14:00       ` MSavoritias
2024-03-18 14:32         ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-18 16:27   ` Kaelyn
2024-03-18 17:39     ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-03-18 20:38     ` Olivier Dion
2024-03-18 19:38   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 22:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-19 10:58     ` Simon Tournier
2024-03-19 15:37       ` Ian Eure
2024-03-18 11:14 ` Content-Addressed system and history? Simon Tournier
2024-04-20 18:48 ` Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:29   ` Ian Eure
2024-05-01 15:41     ` Tomas Volf
2024-05-02 10:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 16:00     ` Maxim Cournoyer

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