From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Howard Subject: Re: Free firmware - A redefinition of the term and a new metric for it's measurement. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:57:40 -0900 Message-ID: <5a2f7929-ce4c-15ec-942d-5b101c47cec0@alaskasi.com> References: <20170214131548.35dafcfc@second-laptop> <87poik5y8l.fsf@openmailbox.org> Reply-To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-linux-libre-bounces+gldg-gnu-linux-libre=m.gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: "gnu-linux-libre" To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions , Adonay Felipe Nogueira Cc: guix-devel List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org Some folks are working a free firmware for Rpi2: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi2 What you say below is not necessarily true. You can buy libre systems. Of course, sometimes they cost more... but in a non-ideal world freedom sometimes comes with a price. Anyway, the point of projects like this and RYF and other libre projects is to make freedom available to everyone, even the "non-technical" folks. David, I think you need to give up wasting your time trying to convince a Gnu/Linux *Libre* list that proprietary kernel blobs are a good idea. Most people are here because they care more about freedom than getting the support of every manufacturer on the market. If you want to make headway, just register at any "Linux" forum on the web and you'll find that 80% of the people there already agree with you. On 02/14/2017 11:47 AM, David Craven wrote: >> About that conversation involving some GuixSD user: He gave that kind of >> recommendation so easily? I'm shocked... > > The irony is that unless you know as much about hardware as Denis you > ARE USING NON-FREE FIRMWARE. As proven by you suggestion to simply use > a different distro. > -- Christopher Howard, Computer Assistant Alaska Satellite Internet 3239 La Ree Way, Fairbanks, AK 99709 907-451-0088 or 888-396-5623 (toll free) fax: 888-260-3584 mailto:christopher@alaskasi.com http://www.alaskasatelliteinternet.com