From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hartmut Goebel Subject: Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)] Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:13:23 +0200 Message-ID: <58F67363.8030202@goebel-consult.de> References: <20170418102336.GA19486@mail.thebird.nl> <20170418111814.xouioj2dron7woqg@abyayala> <20170418175926.GA21415@mail.thebird.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52740) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0ZVF-00057b-1O for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0ZVB-0003zD-OQ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:32 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]:49750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0ZVB-0003wM-IK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:29 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3w6xCT61f4z1qv3W for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan01.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3w6xCT00jLz3jgYY for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan01.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u9Zrk9hszinW for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermia.goebel-consult.de (ppp-93-104-78-172.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.78.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.110.2] (lenashee.goebel-consult.de [192.168.110.2]) by hermia.goebel-consult.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B2860482 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:19:41 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20170418175926.GA21415@mail.thebird.nl> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org Am 18.04.2017 um 19:59 schrieb Pjotr Prins: > there is actually a business case for something like ethical hosting. I also see some demand for ethical hosting, esp. for collaboration services like mailman, chat, file-share, a simple web-site, etc. I get questions about this quite often. But most times the people are neither capable to setup and maintain a server at all =E2=80=93 or they don't wan= t to spend the money. E.g. at 1blu.de you can get a vServer with Plesk admin interface for 8 =E2= =82=AC per month. This includes KVM virtualization (or virtuozzo if you prefer), a web-mailer, mailinglists via plesk (mailman in the background) and a domain. So I don't see a business case here :-( --=20 +++hartmut | Hartmut Goebel | | | hartmut@goebel-consult.de | www.goebel-consult.de |