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* [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
@ 2016-04-05 12:08 Jelle Licht
  2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jelle Licht @ 2016-04-05 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel


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Although it is mostly me nitpicking, I was installing GuixSD on an old
laptop and noticed that the message of the day of the installation image
still referred to GuixSD as alpha software.

This patch changes the motd of the installer use the term beta software
instead.

--
Jelle

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From cd6c615708d23226d4b90c256cfcef49ec9ee275 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jelle Licht <jlicht@fsfe.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:04:06 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] ui: Updated installation motd alpha reference to beta

* gnu/system/install.scm (installation-services): Refer to GuixSD as beta
  software in motd
---
 gnu/system/install.scm | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/gnu/system/install.scm b/gnu/system/install.scm
index a94e3ab..f61fc82 100644
--- a/gnu/system/install.scm
+++ b/gnu/system/install.scm
@@ -255,7 +255,7 @@ Welcome to the installation of the Guix System Distribution!
 
 There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  In particular, you may
 LOSE ALL YOUR DATA as a side effect of the installation process.  Furthermore,
-it is alpha software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.
+it is beta software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.
 
 You have been warned.  Thanks for being so brave.
 ")))
-- 
2.7.3


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* Re: [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
  2016-04-05 12:08 [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software Jelle Licht
@ 2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
  2016-04-05 15:16   ` Jelle Licht
  2016-04-17 14:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2016-04-05 20:21 ` Leo Famulari
  2016-04-17 14:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Florian Paul Schmidt @ 2016-04-05 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel


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On 05.04.2016 14:08, Jelle Licht wrote:
> Although it is mostly me nitpicking, I was installing GuixSD on an old
> laptop and noticed that the message of the day of the installation image
> still referred to GuixSD as alpha software.
> 
> This patch changes the motd of the installer use the term beta software
> instead.

Some more nitpicking: I don't know if the Guix project has agreed on the
semantics on the terms "alpha" and "beta", but the usual definition is
that in "alpha" software might undergo big unexpected (by the user)
changes so "so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS." is an appropriate
warning. In "beta" this kind of breakage should not happen. I.e. "beta"
usually means that the general state of the software is stable and no
big breakages are expected, but rather it's a phase of ironing out the
remaining kinks.

Flo

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* Re: [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
  2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
@ 2016-04-05 15:16   ` Jelle Licht
  2016-04-17 14:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jelle Licht @ 2016-04-05 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Paul Schmidt; +Cc: guix-devel

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According to that definition, beta does not seem to be a monniker we should
be using on the website then either ;-).


Either way, it would be nice to apply these terms consistently.

Jelle

On Apr 5, 2016 3:30 PM, "Florian Paul Schmidt" <mista.tapas@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 05.04.2016 14:08, Jelle Licht wrote:
> > Although it is mostly me nitpicking, I was installing GuixSD on an old
> > laptop and noticed that the message of the day of the installation image
> > still referred to GuixSD as alpha software.
> >
> > This patch changes the motd of the installer use the term beta software
> > instead.
>
> Some more nitpicking: I don't know if the Guix project has agreed on the
> semantics on the terms "alpha" and "beta", but the usual definition is
> that in "alpha" software might undergo big unexpected (by the user)
> changes so "so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS." is an appropriate
> warning. In "beta" this kind of breakage should not happen. I.e. "beta"
> usually means that the general state of the software is stable and no
> big breakages are expected, but rather it's a phase of ironing out the
> remaining kinks.
>
> Flo
>
> --
> https://fps.io
>
>

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* Re: [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
  2016-04-05 12:08 [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software Jelle Licht
  2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
@ 2016-04-05 20:21 ` Leo Famulari
  2016-04-17 14:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Leo Famulari @ 2016-04-05 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jelle Licht; +Cc: guix-devel

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 02:08:40PM +0200, Jelle Licht wrote:
> Although it is mostly me nitpicking, I was installing GuixSD on an old
> laptop and noticed that the message of the day of the installation image
> still referred to GuixSD as alpha software.
> 
> This patch changes the motd of the installer use the term beta software
> instead.

I agree with this change. We have already begun calling GuixSD 'beta' on
the web site.

> 
> --
> Jelle

> From cd6c615708d23226d4b90c256cfcef49ec9ee275 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jelle Licht <jlicht@fsfe.org>
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:04:06 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] ui: Updated installation motd alpha reference to beta
> 
> * gnu/system/install.scm (installation-services): Refer to GuixSD as beta
>   software in motd
> ---
>  gnu/system/install.scm | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/gnu/system/install.scm b/gnu/system/install.scm
> index a94e3ab..f61fc82 100644
> --- a/gnu/system/install.scm
> +++ b/gnu/system/install.scm
> @@ -255,7 +255,7 @@ Welcome to the installation of the Guix System Distribution!
>  
>  There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  In particular, you may
>  LOSE ALL YOUR DATA as a side effect of the installation process.  Furthermore,
> -it is alpha software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.
> +it is beta software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.
>  
>  You have been warned.  Thanks for being so brave.
>  ")))
> -- 
> 2.7.3
> 

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* Re: [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
  2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
  2016-04-05 15:16   ` Jelle Licht
@ 2016-04-17 14:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-04-17 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Paul Schmidt; +Cc: guix-devel

Florian Paul Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net> skribis:

> On 05.04.2016 14:08, Jelle Licht wrote:
>> Although it is mostly me nitpicking, I was installing GuixSD on an old
>> laptop and noticed that the message of the day of the installation image
>> still referred to GuixSD as alpha software.
>> 
>> This patch changes the motd of the installer use the term beta software
>> instead.
>
> Some more nitpicking: I don't know if the Guix project has agreed on the
> semantics on the terms "alpha" and "beta", but the usual definition is
> that in "alpha" software might undergo big unexpected (by the user)
> changes so "so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS." is an appropriate
> warning. In "beta" this kind of breakage should not happen. I.e. "beta"
> usually means that the general state of the software is stable and no
> big breakages are expected, but rather it's a phase of ironing out the
> remaining kinks.

I think that’s mostly where we are when it comes to GuixSD.  Guix itself
is a bit further.

Ludo’.

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* Re: [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software
  2016-04-05 12:08 [PATCH] Refer to GuixSD as beta software Jelle Licht
  2016-04-05 13:29 ` Florian Paul Schmidt
  2016-04-05 20:21 ` Leo Famulari
@ 2016-04-17 14:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-04-17 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jelle Licht; +Cc: guix-devel

Jelle Licht <jlicht@fsfe.org> skribis:

> --- a/gnu/system/install.scm
> +++ b/gnu/system/install.scm
> @@ -255,7 +255,7 @@ Welcome to the installation of the Guix System Distribution!
>  
>  There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  In particular, you may
>  LOSE ALL YOUR DATA as a side effect of the installation process.  Furthermore,
> -it is alpha software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.
> +it is beta software, so it may BREAK IN UNEXPECTED WAYS.

I’ve made the alpha → beta change and also made the warning less scary
(and closer to reality!).

Ludo’.

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