Language-specific guides for using "guix shell" (was: [bug#72925] [PATCH v3] adding jpm package)

Language-specific guides for using "guix shell" (was: [bug#72925] [PATCH v3] adding jpm package)

[Suhail Singh]

Moving the discussion to guix-devel.

"jgart" <jgart@dismail.de> writes:

> what do people think of having language specific guides for using
> `guix shell` with particular programming languages?
>
> not unlike this Nix guide that shows how to use Python in a `nix
> shell` to develop on a flask application:
>
> https://nix.dev/guides/recipes/python-environment.html

I believe such guides would be quite helpful.  Perhaps Guix Cookbook
would be the appropriate place for it?

> would be cool to document the expected workflow for a Guix user using
> jpm and guix to develop on janet software, for example.

As someone curious about JPM, such a guide would be of practical
interest to me.

-- 
Suhail

Re: Language-specific guides for using "guix shell" (was: [bug#72925] [PATCH v3] adding jpm package)

[Omar Bassam]

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Hi jgart,
I am kind of new to Guix and I am struggling to find resources forlanguage
specific recipes like you mentioned.
I started a project https://lisp-spectrum.org/ where I try to document my
struggles with the Lisp Ecosystemin general (Guix included).
For every Lisp, I try to include a guix manifest to make the instructions
reproducible and I plan to add guides
on how to work with guix on many levels (OS, home and shell) for each
language.

I'm only doing this project for Lisp dialects for now, but I can definitely
see the benefit of having the same thing for other languages as well.


On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 23:20, Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> wrote:

> Moving the discussion to guix-devel.
>
> "jgart" <jgart@dismail.de> writes:
>
> > what do people think of having language specific guides for using
> > `guix shell` with particular programming languages?
> >
> > not unlike this Nix guide that shows how to use Python in a `nix
> > shell` to develop on a flask application:
> >
> > https://nix.dev/guides/recipes/python-environment.html
>
> I believe such guides would be quite helpful.  Perhaps Guix Cookbook
> would be the appropriate place for it?
>
> > would be cool to document the expected workflow for a Guix user using
> > jpm and guix to develop on janet software, for example.
>
> As someone curious about JPM, such a guide would be of practical
> interest to me.
>
> --
> Suhail
>

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Re: Language-specific guides for using "guix shell" (was: [bug#72925] [PATCH v3] adding jpm package)

[jgart]

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October 2, 2024 at 3:32 PM, "Omar Bassam" <omar.bassam88@gmail.com mailto:omar.bassam88@gmail.com?to=%22Omar%20Bassam%22%20%3Comar.bassam88%40gmail.com%3E > wrote:



> 
> Hi jgart, 
> I am kind of new to Guix and I am struggling to find resources forlanguage specific recipes like you mentioned. 
> I started a project https://lisp-spectrum.org/ where I try to document my struggles with the Lisp Ecosystemin general (Guix included). 
> For every Lisp, I try to include a guix manifest to make the instructions reproducible and I plan to add guides 
> on how to work with guix on many levels (OS, home and shell) for each language.
> 
> I'm only doing this project for Lisp dialects for now, but I can definitely see the benefit of having the same thing for other languages as well.
> 
Thanks! I'll read your website soon. Great idea!!!

This is one random blog post I know about that discusses a development workflow for Guix:

https://dthompson.us/posts/guix-for-development.html

Have you read that one? Might be relevant.

all best,

jgart

https://whereis.xn--q9jyb4c/

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Re: Language-specific guides for using "guix shell"

[indieterminacy]

On 2024-10-02 20:32, Omar Bassam wrote:
> Hi jgart,
> 
> I am kind of new to Guix and I am struggling to find resources
> forlanguage specific recipes like you mentioned.
> 
> I started a project https://lisp-spectrum.org/ where I try to document
> my struggles with the Lisp Ecosystemin general (Guix included).
> 

Cool!

Its worth pointing out the Lisp dialect, TXR
https://www.nongnu.org/txr/txr-lisp.html

FWIW, here are some of my notes:
https://git.sr.ht/~indieterminacy/?search=3q+txr


> For every Lisp, I try to include a guix manifest to make the
> instructions reproducible and I plan to add guides
> 
> on how to work with guix on many levels (OS, home and shell) for each
> language.
> 
> I'm only doing this project for Lisp dialects for now, but I can
> definitely see the benefit of having the same thing for other
> languages as well.
> 
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 23:20, Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Moving the discussion to guix-devel.
>> 
>> "jgart" <jgart@dismail.de> writes:
>> 
>>> what do people think of having language specific guides for using
>>> `guix shell` with particular programming languages?
>>> 
>>> not unlike this Nix guide that shows how to use Python in a `nix
>>> shell` to develop on a flask application:
>>> 
>>> https://nix.dev/guides/recipes/python-environment.html
>> 
>> I believe such guides would be quite helpful.  Perhaps Guix Cookbook
>> would be the appropriate place for it?
>> 
>>> would be cool to document the expected workflow for a Guix user
>> using
>>> jpm and guix to develop on janet software, for example.
>> 
>> As someone curious about JPM, such a guide would be of practical
>> interest to me.
>> 
>> --
>> Suhail

Happy hacking!


Jonathan

Re: Language-specific guides for using "guix shell"

[Omar Bassam]

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Hi Jonathan,


On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 at 06:43, indieterminacy <indieterminacy@libre.brussels>
wrote:

> On 2024-10-02 20:32, Omar Bassam wrote:
> > Hi jgart,
> >
> > I am kind of new to Guix and I am struggling to find resources
> > forlanguage specific recipes like you mentioned.
> >
> > I started a project https://lisp-spectrum.org/ where I try to document
> > my struggles with the Lisp Ecosystemin general (Guix included).
> >
>
> Cool!
>
> Its worth pointing out the Lisp dialect, TXR
> https://www.nongnu.org/txr/txr-lisp.html
>
> FWIW, here are some of my notes:
> https://git.sr.ht/~indieterminacy/?search=3q+txr
>
>
WOW, I've never heard of such a project. I didn't know that it's possible
to combine Lisp-1 and Lisp-2 in one implementation.
It looks like a very unique dialect with some unconventional ideas that one
can learn from.
Would you be interested in adding some notes about this dialect in the
lisp-spectrum project?


> > For every Lisp, I try to include a guix manifest to make the
> > instructions reproducible and I plan to add guides
> >
> > on how to work with guix on many levels (OS, home and shell) for each
> > language.
> >
> > I'm only doing this project for Lisp dialects for now, but I can
> > definitely see the benefit of having the same thing for other
> > languages as well.
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 23:20, Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Moving the discussion to guix-devel.
> >>
> >> "jgart" <jgart@dismail.de> writes:
> >>
> >>> what do people think of having language specific guides for using
> >>> `guix shell` with particular programming languages?
> >>>
> >>> not unlike this Nix guide that shows how to use Python in a `nix
> >>> shell` to develop on a flask application:
> >>>
> >>> https://nix.dev/guides/recipes/python-environment.html
> >>
> >> I believe such guides would be quite helpful.  Perhaps Guix Cookbook
> >> would be the appropriate place for it?
> >>
> >>> would be cool to document the expected workflow for a Guix user
> >> using
> >>> jpm and guix to develop on janet software, for example.
> >>
> >> As someone curious about JPM, such a guide would be of practical
> >> interest to me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Suhail
>
> Happy hacking!
>
>
> Jonathan
>

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Re: Language-specific guides for using "guix shell"

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> skribis:

> "jgart" <jgart@dismail.de> writes:
>
>> what do people think of having language specific guides for using
>> `guix shell` with particular programming languages?
>>
>> not unlike this Nix guide that shows how to use Python in a `nix
>> shell` to develop on a flask application:
>>
>> https://nix.dev/guides/recipes/python-environment.html
>
> I believe such guides would be quite helpful.  Perhaps Guix Cookbook
> would be the appropriate place for it?

I agree it’d be useful, and I think the Cookbook is indeed a good place
for that.

Ludo’.