From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 2HfDMi743l+hJAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:07:26 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id UHSFLi743l+MTwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:07:26 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94EF19404D2 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60986 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsoP-00036I-GU for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:07:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqsoA-00034o-0i for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:07:10 -0500 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:57474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqso7-0002Yq-UZ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:07:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B7A523A8; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:07:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZzpCpFV6AjV0; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:07:04 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1608448023; bh=d/EPS/MrnTx0Jr8Myi2ziVcrKAt/8YisudmF/xy+oiY=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=LHdkqwzxQBBfh9HLK0iNX5qD82vCw2C05hl/fZlfkmGP7TTbcWmdMSUHXg7uGg6UW pC9kYKeSUMnDlU8PS/rKxPW2cYH4XJQYYi3J+PoQpEotOXbk8J1AdgNkqc/FIDHyXn a5vDmkozQxRd2F1/gie3p0LLtFNubBohYc+K5dTVHGzMYoSJsLssi7ABjS61tU0/yM aae0qRgCVNgcfPuR6lIiW5GPqycEJwsrhjbqbtkPYTNh6M0A6+244QjtywXlFu2LxO heN/BvlJccXyEUWFMHPRhEyDCuWE+liMnlgQkx9kcz1Hj+ScxhMkxTscwJ+w0T566u QsXsMMOcb1Txw== Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:07:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <4b50b929d38fcaae7577afce3e72616a@disroot.org> Subject: Re: Questionable "cosmetic changes" commits To: "Bengt Richter" , "Christopher Baines" In-Reply-To: <20201205234251.GA16129@LionPure> References: <20201205234251.GA16129@LionPure> <87im9g4ukt.fsf@netris.org> <87lfebrk9v.fsf@cbaines.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=raghavgururajan@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Ryan Prior Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" Reply-to: "Raghav Gururajan" From: "Raghav Gururajan" via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=LHdkqwzx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 94EF19404D2 X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 9lAsvF+knIjm Hi Bengt!=0A=0A> =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=90=0A> =E2=94=82 "So I removed the comments." =E2=94=82= =0A> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=98=0A> Raghav, I think you may not grok the social signalling of a st= atement like that :)=0A=0AMy apologies! I didn't mean that with a negativ= e connotation.=0A=0A> It sounds like you are overlooking the _social_ nee= d for consensus=0A> in modifying a shared environment.=0A> =0A> Taking a = picture off the wall of a shared living room is different=0A> from taking= the same picture off the wall in your private room.=0A> =0A> A git commi= t in a jointly developed FLOSS project is modifying a shared living room.= =0A> (But do what you like in your own git repo ;-)=0A> =0A> The social a= spect is not about the technical merits of of your changes,=0A> it's abou= t the difference between joint ownership and private ownership,=0A> and t= he differences in exercising owner rights.=0A=0AI understand. When the pa= tch was in the mail-list for a while, I assumed folks were okay with the = changes. I am glad that Mark shared the concerns. This gave me an opportu= nity to be in consensus with others. :-)=0A=0AI will be changing my work-= flow to prevent this issue from happening again.=0A=0ARegards,=0ARG.