From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: swedebugia Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=98sudo=E2=80=99_leaves_PAT?= =?UTF-8?Q?H_unchanged=E2=80=A6_so_what=3F?= Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 07:19:01 +0100 Message-ID: <43153561-B594-447B-BD55-045C625B3EE7@pretty.Easy.privacy> References: <87y37jwp1p.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8e7h6yd.fsf@elephly.net> <87r2dbv4w0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhryv3l5.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> <87fttqfmnm.fsf@elephly.net> <87d0ouuro2.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> ; <20190118212928.452ed4e1@scratchpost.org>; Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----2JM9B902R99MX2XU3NVA02QLY2Z7YZ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gkjyK-0002f3-Kb for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 01:19:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gkjyJ-0006jz-KS for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 01:19:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:47750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gkjyJ-0006hz-5d for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 01:19:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87y37jwp1p.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8e7h6yd.fsf@elephly.net> <87r2dbv4w0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhryv3l5.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> <87fttqfmnm.fsf@elephly.net> <87d0ouuro2.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> ; <20190118212928.452ed4e1@scratchpost.org>; List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Danny Milosavljevic , Caleb Ristvedt Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" ------2JM9B902R99MX2XU3NVA02QLY2Z7YZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----BE8WI76CRGXEIPMBUC3GA9EFNDDWS5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------BE8WI76CRGXEIPMBUC3GA9EFNDDWS5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Danny Milosavljevic <= ;dannym@scratchpost=2Eorg> skrev: (18 januari 2019 21:29:28 CET)

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:03:18 +0000
Caleb Ristvedt=
 <caleb=2Eristvedt@cune=2Eorg> wrote:

 To be clear, it's not so much a real problem as a=
n eyesore=2E 'sudo guix
 package =2E=2E=2E' and 'sudo guix pull' will op=
erate on root's profile(s) as
 expected, but that also means 'sudo guix =
system reconfigure' will look at
 root's profile when deciding whether t=
o say that it's out of date, even
 though the guix actually used for rec=
onfiguring may not be out of date=2E It
 pretty much only ever comes up =
when reconfiguring, but for those like
 myself who are worried by messag=
es like that it can be confusing to try to
 resolve=2E
<=
br>There's an environment variable "SUDO_USER" which still contains the nam=
e
of the original user=2E

We could check SUDO_USER instead of USE=
R if USER=3Droot, otherwise check USER=2E

+1 great idea=2E

Maybe we could have an explicit --root switch too?
Then we could state in the manual that guix always runs with your user pro= file guix unless you give it --root=2E

We could the clearly state why you might not want it to use a root profile= of guix on a typical single user system=2E
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------BE8WI76CRGXEIPMBUC3GA9EFNDDWS5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Danny Milosavljevic skrev: (18 januari 2019 21:2= 9:28 CET) >On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 19:03:18 +0000 >Caleb Ristvedt wrote: > >> To be clear, it's not so much a real problem as an eyesore=2E 'sudo >guix >> package =2E=2E=2E' and 'sudo guix pull' will operate on root's profile(= s) >as >> expected, but that also means 'sudo guix system reconfigure' will >look at >> root's profile when deciding whether to say that it's out of date, >even >> though the guix actually used for reconfiguring may not be out of >date=2E It >> pretty much only ever comes up when reconfiguring, but for those like >> myself who are worried by messages like that it can be confusing to >try to >> resolve=2E > >There's an environment variable "SUDO_USER" which still contains the >name >of the original user=2E > >We could check SUDO_USER instead of USER if USER=3Droot, otherwise check >USER=2E +1 great idea=2E Maybe we could have an explicit --root switch too? Then we could state in the manual that guix always runs with your user pro= file guix unless you give it --root=2E We could the clearly state why you might not want it to use a root profile= of guix on a typical single user system=2E=20 --=20 Sent from my p=E2=89=A1p for Android=2E ------BE8WI76CRGXEIPMBUC3GA9EFNDDWS5-- ------2JM9B902R99MX2XU3NVA02QLY2Z7YZ Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="pEpkey.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pEpkey.asc"; size=3825 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgUFVCTElDIEtFWSBCTE9DSy0tLS0tCgptUUlOQkZ3Y25XMEJFQURhNWti U0t0ZEd6ZzQ1SjZkQnRFS21lZFM2bEtEQkx1UmlNZTRTNHppTFVMaVV5RTlWCmVNeTA0TUUzbFN6 WHg4TlpSNjVxSzdENDRhVlRvV29iUlcxMEhGWi9YOWh5bFlrcnFzUk45cndieW5mOTFrcU0KcVI2 TkRxQjJKRHZTek9LRzM0U2dnTzVkVGh1RE1GdzNmT3Z1cGhtSnN5b2s3OGVYQlFqTkxyaXNvQnhT SEFyVgpzZjdIMlJIYlNmTmZaclMxaEtUUzRtbFBpNnJZS2ZFMUFvbm8wdUs5SnVVZHBTTyswODdV ejhRam5GVTE5c09BClJWTWtUTnpuZk12MHVzeUsxSzc5U2pjYzJjTzhkNDRUalJlTGkxcFlHMjBV 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