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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: ilmu Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617914392; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=93dCYHQTqWXSOlPOXLcWSlzCFIA0U4j9XrNW8vJ83f8=; b=BY7oEyv51q6zqRpMA/wwV+shrBo+n9hxkyAYOXGVe+n9PM0hzNOlpaay+OMBx0XpWvtVqW Cd43BBLf3NEGEUbIgdofELhABGzyD3WerN+qmbNUjc2/s0dD6IhB3NZnw7bTIPh7uiWfw/ 6kLkjUWD8YGpWRiK6EUqM4p5a7DHG7wRzHRlRfOWcf8nB3wHdspOoWcCtcXPpRx++bf6oG IC8nfNZGCxNV/ZD5MPnZCijvdqbkCZuosi2EsjhCzEAB8n1M8KaiKlsQGNIEBU5waXV8LG auTRp6rhqoKgmNnAxa5FaeE3dVViCK5r5VxeZFW2tXZxVxjXEsiL3ThU8GKmlQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617914392; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=icMCeCEAbZ3VNnd3kHhvfafN/D2uhzXtxJ4Vp8xIski9CUGqKRv/ERJzOb3NT7BPCJIdvE Y1aodqAQFEFuip1ctc1O01GZu2rIzGUlsWk1czZO3t+EQbcOGbZ/E06XEnmzAJaVz5Z8m2 3DMy3d8gLuNYYaaTwUrwL9a9Ekk8AqIitVaXHx5YRmb8DfOJp9BX5ZUnoLFmQkrTzxSYxm F6oqODw5ELr7ODlfubWOs0AtBZnP0JJvy3zLJy7D4XuUUr0mVBfB06538cRnD74eemxEFw w82MLYGsPkfgPU1/V4e9heGJIuVhiWzOIdeHBWyCbmjsQ93UYAFGaqz2zvOmoQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=rishi.is header.s=protonmail header.b="r3SesZ/k"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=rishi.is (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.16 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=rishi.is header.s=protonmail header.b="r3SesZ/k"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=rishi.is (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A2F0E13D9A X-Spam-Score: 0.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: jb2LIhvybDao Hi guys, A bit crazy maybe but how about we completely redefine what money is? I wrote "this" (the attachment or http://datalisp.is) over the weekend (in = one sitting! very raw, sorry if it's hard to understand, feel free to ask m= e any questions). Actually from seeing this: > Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) > Sent from Emacs and Gnus > https://gnucode.me > https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels > https://propernaming.org > "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help > enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar It looks like you basically have the right idea about the economics, the pa= per describes something similar (get paid by helping others find the proper= names for things). The document basically explains how to make a "cryptocurrency" that uses so= mething like "automated science" as proof of work. Please leave preconceived notions at the door, this is not like any other c= ryptocurrency you are familiar with and the bit about automatic science is = also slightly inaccurate, really it is hard to classify this idea (if it ev= en works). However! I have access to funding and some other people and this pdf serves= as a general overview for this (admittedly very ambitious) project. The fi= rst step (that I have in mind) is to make an education startup that teaches= programming to children and teenagers, by using the ideas in the paper thi= s can be automated and the network self-perpetuating. I am also very interested in making a "nixos-infect" type thing for Guix an= d asked about that in the past on the mailing lists. Let me know how you decide to proceed, I'm sure we can cooperate. Kind regards, - Ilmu =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 6:15 PM, Joshua Branson wr= ote: > Leo Famulari leo@famulari.name writes: > > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 12:05:00PM -0400, Joshua Branson wrote: > > > > > Aloha you lovely people! I personally believe that people should make > > > business out of free software. Here are some of my business ideas > > > involving GNU Guix. I invite you all to beat me to market! > > > > VPS service that accepts a config.scm and returns a running virtual > > machine, accessible with a web-based console (SSH, HTTPS and other > > services would be enabled by the user as desired, in config.scm). > > I'm all game to do something like this! We could be a serious contender > for linode or digital ocean! Guix already has a VPS like service...one > would just need to write the web interface...and potentially buy some > hardware. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >