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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A4D8F44B78 X-TUID: 9bp9/EMQTEuR On 9/18/23 16:10, Peter Polidoro wrote: > > MSavoritias writes: > >> I go to the manual to learn package management, >> https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Package-Management >> >> Apparently i have to either use the terminal or something called >> emacs. If I follow the guide located here: >> https://emacs-guix.gitlab.io/website/manual/latest/emacs-guix.html#Installation >> >> It says to install emacs-guix. Okay. So apparently it is an Emacs >> thing, whatever that means. And when you start Emacs after installing >> the package, you are going to end up with Emacs in its plain form. >> Unfamiliar keybindings, no autocomplete, etc. Well thats no to Emacs >> then. The other thing is the terminal apparently. Horrible, but at >> least it works. > > You make a very good point, being exposed to Emacs for the very first > time in this way would be a terrible experience and listing > alternative options would be very beneficial. > > However, I would just like to say "Thank you!" to everyone here for > using Emacs in the manual. > > For my entire career in hardware engineering, I have felt like an > outcast for using Emacs and being passionate about free software. When > everyone else on a team or in a company or organization uses > proprietary software only, it is very isolating and career limiting to > stay committed to the free software and hardware movements. > > So while you may not win any popularity contests by using Emacs in the > manual, just know that it is very much appreciated by some of us. > Its not Emacs per se. Its more like vanilla Emacs. I very much like Emacs. The idea of it at least. What i meant more was: - Offer an alternative to Emacs. - Specify a distro like doom Emacs that comes with better defaults. I would maybe lean towards the second one i here fyi. I agree it would be nice to introduce people to lisp modifiable editors :D And for guile specifically to offer guile-studio instead of plain Emacs. MSavoritias