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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:35:33 -0600 Message-ID: <3b121e43-3fd5-3ec5-a944-49a6b4e048ea@gmail.com> References: <20230827135726.y33t55w4cvq6zsvb@X-kone> <874jkift8v.fsf@gmail.com> <867cp4sj7k.fsf@gmail.com> <38242808-2f06-4674-3842-aea1a5378d05@gmail.com> <86v8cop6sy.fsf@gmail.com> <8634zrpt40.fsf@gmail.com> <37edb289-d49e-0d74-05f2-4cc93c6129aa@gmail.com> <867cozr0gd.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6o0dhr0.fsf@xelera.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Cc: Attila Lendvai , Liliana Marie Prikler , Andreas Enge , "Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU Systemtdistribution." 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