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From: HiPhish <hiphish@posteo.de>
To: alex.sassmannshausen@gmail.com
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:50:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3893574.yNgoui0T1j@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnvt9fhz.fsf@gmail.com>

On Monday, 29 October 2018 12:08:56 CET you wrote:
> I think you a have burden of proof here, given that our culture at large
> has serious issues with harassment.  Why would you think FLOSS community
> is somehow different from the wider community?
No, you have a burden of proof that "our" culture (whatever this "our" is 
supposed to mean, I have no idea where you live and you have no idea where I 
live) has a serious issue with harassment.

> You can harass someone whilst believing your acting positively.  E.g. an
> ex-partner that "just wants to show how much they love the person that
> spurned them".  And ends up stalking them.
You cannot accidentally stalk someone. Stalkers who are not aware they are 
harassing have a mental disorder. Calling them harassers is against the terms 
of the CC because it is discrimination by disability. See how easy it is to 
break the terms of the CC?

> You're conflating harassment and offense here.  It is one thing to be
> offended by individuals using the wrong cutlery for the entrée; it is
> another entirely for someone to, e.g. use crass racist caricatures.
You intentionally chose the most extreme examples.

> All the more important we do everything we can to minimise the existing
> barriers to contributions from all walks of life.
By pointing a gun at the people most likely to contribute?

> This reads hyperbolic, if not somewhat conspiratorial to me.  No guns
> are being held to anyone's head, no life's endangered or violence even
> threatened.  I also disagree with the implication that harassment
> complaints might be weapons used by a nefarious competing party.
People are putting their careers on the line even by having this discussion in 
the first place. There is a reason why I am using a pseudonym. I have provided 
links to the other guy of people who had their jobs ruined under the pretense 
of a CoC. The people who made the accusations never ended up filling the void 
themselves, they only go around destroying.

> If you don't mind me asking, what are you afraid of?
See above.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-29 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-28 11:58 Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? HiPhish
2018-10-28 12:33 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-10-28 16:14   ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 20:55   ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 11:27     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-29 17:00       ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 17:50         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-29 23:54         ` OF-TOPIC: " Tonton
2018-10-29 11:29   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-29  8:23 ` Björn Höfling
2018-10-29 10:10   ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 11:13     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-29 17:15       ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 17:43         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-29 20:44     ` Björn Höfling
2018-10-29 11:08 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-29 18:50   ` HiPhish [this message]
2018-10-29 23:54     ` Tonton
2018-10-30  0:38       ` HiPhish
2018-10-30  5:13         ` Nils Gillmann
2018-10-31  9:27     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-31 12:29       ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 12:46         ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-31 13:23           ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 14:14             ` Jelle Licht
2018-10-31 14:55               ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 15:41                 ` Stop it. Formerly - " Pjotr Prins
2018-10-31 17:51                   ` Leo Famulari
2018-11-01 14:40                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-01 15:11                       ` Alex Griffin
2018-11-02  2:04                       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-04  9:15                         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-04 14:30                           ` HiPhish
2018-11-04 21:01                           ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-11-06 12:55                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-06 17:23                         ` Marius Bakke
2018-11-06 17:41                           ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 12:30       ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 13:48         ` Jelle Licht
2018-10-31 14:55           ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 17:17             ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-11-01 10:35             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-31 13:48         ` Thomas Danckaert
2018-10-31 14:06           ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-31 14:55           ` HiPhish
2018-10-31 16:41             ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-11-01  2:58             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-01  9:14         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-01  8:40       ` Steffen Schulz
2018-10-29 11:37 ` Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? (-> convivenza) Nils Gillmann
2018-10-29 11:45   ` Nils Gillmann
2018-10-29 12:01   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-29 12:48 ` Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Giovanni Biscuolo
     [not found]   ` <9066320.aHiQMI0tiE@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>
2018-10-29 18:49     ` HiPhish
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-30  0:46 Alex Griffin
2018-10-30  2:09 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 23:37 HiPhish
2018-10-23 11:15 Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-23 13:38 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-10-23 14:39   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-24  1:06 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-24  3:02   ` Jack Hill
2018-10-24 10:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-24 14:21       ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-26 21:36         ` Tonton
2018-10-26 22:37           ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 18:42             ` Tonton
2018-10-28 19:50               ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 20:25                 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 21:12                 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-28 21:26                 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-29  8:59                 ` Björn Höfling
2018-10-29 10:49                   ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 13:43                     ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-29 17:48                     ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-10-29 22:58                 ` Tonton
2018-10-29 18:16             ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-10-24 10:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-24 16:06   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-25 10:23   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-25 15:25     ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-25 23:03     ` George Clemmer
2018-10-26  2:43       ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-10-26 21:25         ` Alex Griffin

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