Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) independent of each other

Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) independent of each other

[dcn]

Hi !

Going through the Installer and getting "stuck" at the first 2 question 
already: Language and Location.

If I chose English, I'm only allowed to chose officially English 
speaking countries. Why can I not have an English installation, when I 
currently live in Germany for example ? While I can most likely change 
that post installation, it is still quite irritating. There should at 
least be a button for "other" or "differs" or some such.

Great work regardless, keep it up ! :)

Fwd: Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) independent of each other

[dcn]

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After seeing the resulting scm file it makes a lot more sense. I might 
have written this e-mail a tad bit too hastily.

<3


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Subject: 	Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) 
independent of each other
Date: 	Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:05:07 +0200
From: 	dcn <gnopap@gmail.com>
To: 	guix-devel@gnu.org



Hi !

Going through the Installer and getting "stuck" at the first 2 question 
already: Language and Location.

If I chose English, I'm only allowed to chose officially English 
speaking countries. Why can I not have an English installation, when I 
currently live in Germany for example ? While I can most likely change 
that post installation, it is still quite irritating. There should at 
least be a button for "other" or "differs" or some such.

Great work regardless, keep it up ! :)


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Re: Fwd: Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) independent of each other

[Julien Lepiller]

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Well even if it makes sense now, we don't want users to be confused when installing their system. What happened exactly? Maybe we can fix the wording or something?

On 2020年8月12日 10:19:05 GMT-04:00, dcn <gnopap@gmail.com> wrote:
>After seeing the resulting scm file it makes a lot more sense. I might 
>have written this e-mail a tad bit too hastily.
>
><3
>
>
>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject: 	Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) 
>independent of each other
>Date: 	Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:05:07 +0200
>From: 	dcn <gnopap@gmail.com>
>To: 	guix-devel@gnu.org
>
>
>
>Hi !
>
>Going through the Installer and getting "stuck" at the first 2 question
>
>already: Language and Location.
>
>If I chose English, I'm only allowed to chose officially English 
>speaking countries. Why can I not have an English installation, when I 
>currently live in Germany for example ? While I can most likely change 
>that post installation, it is still quite irritating. There should at 
>least be a button for "other" or "differs" or some such.
>
>Great work regardless, keep it up ! :)

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Re: Fwd: Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally) independent of each other

[dcn]

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I think it was just me being a bit .. slow at that very moment. I 
somehow interpreted "Choose a territory for this language" as the actual 
location which would be used for the timezone and such, not as the 
'variant' of the language. It might help if the language code is listed 
along the territory name

* Australia - en-AU
* Botswana - en (?)
* Canada - en-CA

or the other way around.

...

While I was looking at the list a bit more closely, it doesn't seem to 
follow any standards or best practices. is en_DK even a thing ? What 
about en-TT (trinidat) or en-JM for example ? I never delved into 
locales, maybe it's some *x specific quirk ..


On 8/12/20 5:46 PM, Julien Lepiller wrote:
> Well even if it makes sense now, we don't want users to be confused 
> when installing their system. What happened exactly? Maybe we can fix 
> the wording or something?
>
> On 2020年8月12日 10:19:05 GMT-04:00, dcn <gnopap@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     After seeing the resulting scm file it makes a lot more sense. I
>     might have written this e-mail a tad bit too hastily.
>
>     <3
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: 	Installer: Language and Location should be (optionally)
>     independent of each other
>     Date: 	Wed, 12 Aug 2020 16:05:07 +0200
>     From: 	dcn <gnopap@gmail.com>
>     To: 	guix-devel@gnu.org
>
>
>
>     Hi !
>
>     Going through the Installer and getting "stuck" at the first 2
>     question already: Language and Location.
>
>     If I chose English, I'm only allowed to chose officially English
>     speaking countries. Why can I not have an English installation,
>     when I currently live in Germany for example ? While I can most
>     likely change that post installation, it is still quite
>     irritating. There should at least be a button for "other" or
>     "differs" or some such.
>
>     Great work regardless, keep it up ! :)
>

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