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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.03 X-Spam-Score: -5.03 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6EF003F27D X-TUID: s4WnzgjudJoc Hi, >> This definitely falls into the IDE tooling issue that I complained about >> a bunch of times. There seems to be a reality distortion field around >> Lisp that makes some users believe that s-expressions automatically lead >> to a good IDE experience. And yet, Java IDEs have had automatic import >> management for at least 15 years (around the time I first used Eclipse), >> but Guile still doesn't have anything of the sort. >> It looks like the only way to move forward is for people to share these >> helper scripts they've been using and forging them into a consistent >> developer environment, maybe based on Guile Studio. Hopefully I can >> make some contributions towards such a project. > I fully agree with this. I'd also add that everything seems to be emacs > focused and not being an emacs user is kind of an extra barrier for people. > (I'm not an emacs user) I finally reached the conclusion that the only feasible way out of emacs to a modern IDE is LSP. There's an implementation here [0] (and a client [1]) that's supposedly working for basic features like Jump to Definition but I still haven't managed to make it work on Guix. There's also an issue to add it to Guix mainstream [2]. Hope this helps! giacomo [0]: https://codeberg.org/rgherdt/scheme-lsp-server [1]: https://codeberg.org/rgherdt/vscode-scheme-lsp [2]: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/60286