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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1635379679; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=rX4jTR5tHooZVTXzXlGZEK8uyM7Fx4MRMQwLk3xoUf4=; b=b5hZWL27fWXMkGRBvlhq8edXhkdfQRA6B8FpcHtzH0ng/fEgAKweAVcthtPe3Txuor8X3o Rg9kBtIhB8N2BRm5VhEz3Yu5qa2bZMzFfp9/ivuoXyJLeiTArf0OgZ9V4zNQyxMu2Kl/bU KK+X68SM/aGU+wl6BPmCEie3ToD385h1ycGM8bPqcGQWjcEfhV3Sf+7KfuXxn1l+jxpZTW E/x1qwbz1i8WsZMCFNa28l8Jigc6DU3G1mCI/69linKSGwbZu5hWJU8UfcJddtAyRb3n4t MEqXfJl2eseblJyslqL672m4PPaSvQeOygpxLS1XaFKCqDRcCfDVkIgXbqaZAA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1635379679; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DHAUyG7SB7niLw0VJ/zYASEAXYhZYGnLg/V29L1QnhJICMBcPrNv8fUhwXvLuvL/n5bYKO o7jPyYBMwFAEPJ1iFIiQ8TRUTBKWmmkuAPjRQuTIxhTwvfCB2NdcaL9VquUnf+InBPoIOp SWM7sJPmIC9KmGB8xVUKqEFMTp7KevWy+wR1hVKO0Cbg2F8Fv9jCwJdN3KwqmiFG35Mi5k YY36JraBBevr4VboHSA48n+eLw9pgYR5KiawjhTvHYM2iqxy1pi0KLzECrCBezTDv6Hm56 c09FoM/WITb6qG38GjkxT94UGG1fmT5/KTNdQHfe7/ad/R/FLGHNs/NCLQY/Eg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=kolabnow.com header.s=dkim20160331 header.b=XNNqZW9l; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=kolabnow.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=kolabnow.com header.s=dkim20160331 header.b=XNNqZW9l; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=kolabnow.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DF475B29A X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 1rJevAlTsa+5 Hello, Em quarta-feira, 27 de outubro de 2021, =C3=A0s 19:28:14 -03, Katherine Cox- Buday escreveu: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > I think a major goal of the process would be to formalize a minimum > > and a maximum duration under which an RFC is under evaluation, and a > > mechanism to determine whether it=E2=80=99s accepted or withdrawn. >=20 > I think it's a good idea. Me too. > The only contribution I can give is that I > would not have known =3Dguix shell=3D was coming had I not been watching = the > patches list. So in addition to formalizing what you've mentioned, I > suggest we also formalize a location to watch (guix-devel seems > logical?). I agree that guix-devel is a good place to announce new RFCs, probably=20 using an eye-catching subject prefix so that we can more easily see and=20 filter them. =46or RFCs where users are also stakeholders, we should also announce in=20 places where users are likely to see them, such as the info-guix and help- guix mailing lists, and possibly even the Guix blog (how far out do we want= =20 to spread the word?). =E2=80=9Cguix shell=E2=80=9D would have been an RFC with users as stakehold= ers, but I can=20 imagine others where that isn=E2=80=99t the case, such as some significant = but=20 internal code reorganization. =2D-=20 Thanks, Thiago