From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:48:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32731221-C09D-4E6B-8642-1600A5D56E64__14804.6687872679$1570738655$gmane$org@gnu.support> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5zkw22sb.321942@gmail.com>
How are you?
On October 10, 2019 12:39:00 PM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> wrote:
>Did you move it offlist intentionally? If not, may I resend it back?
Me for sure not intentionally and Guix managers are anyway conducting censorship... So no big deal.
You can resend what you wish. I am not forbidding two-way free speech.
>>>Wow! Ease off a bit!
No need. I am not feeling fear when I state something. So they did not ease with thru FUD and defamation on Guix pages on GNU.org domain, so why MD or others should be silenced? No need.
>>>You might not noticed that, but today Guix is the most vivid part of
>>>GNU. And I could not image an action, that might cause more damage
>to
>>>GNU project, than urging Guix lead developers to leave.
I don't see absolutely no problem there. And they also not. Their strategy is clear that they want their own community where thought police is to punish thought crime. So I let them be.
Their behavior does not fit into GNU kind communication guidelines.
And free software can be freely used? So what is the loss? Their only loss is for them to lose other 100000 dollars donation, that is possible reason for their hostile take over attempt.
>>>all means, you would not able to outcompete them, so it would simply
>>>ended in Guix out of GNU.
I am last person to convince on that as I am aware of their FUD and harm they do to Guix, GNU and RMS. Convince others.
>What the point of dubbing some free program an official GNU package
>nowadays?
What is point in backstabbing of RMS? I asked and never got answers but FUD.
>I do not see how it can be harmful for Guix. Not to say, that you are
>also urging to oust, at least, Guile and GnuPG.
No, not at all. I am asking people to behave according to GNU kind communication guidelines. And if they don't like it to step down and make their own platform for their FUD. But using GNU.org domain to defame and harass RMS is disaster for future.
>Of course, it up to them, and I hope they have enough respect for GNU
>and RMS heritage not to follow you strong advice.
They have no respect for RMS.
Jean Louis
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2019-10-10 2:37 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Jean Louis
2019-10-10 11:39 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-10 12:14 ` Jean Louis
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2019-10-10 12:39 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
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2019-10-10 20:29 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
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2019-10-14 7:46 ` Reminder to keep posts on topic Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-14 15:17 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-14 16:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-10 16:18 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Stefan Huchler
2019-10-10 16:44 ` ng0
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2019-10-14 16:52 ` (Really) Free Software future Svante Signell
2019-10-14 18:16 ` Paul Smith
2019-10-14 18:32 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 18:59 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-14 19:18 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:35 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-14 20:49 ` Stefan Huchler
2019-10-19 23:00 ` (Really) Free Software future in the light of systemd Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-21 17:58 ` Jean Louis
2019-12-15 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 19:11 ` (Really) Free Software future Paul Smith
2019-10-14 19:22 ` Alexander Vdolainen
2019-10-14 19:11 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 2:41 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-15 19:56 ` Svante Signell
2019-10-15 20:31 ` marinus.savoritias
2019-10-15 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 6:00 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2019-10-16 18:51 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-18 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-14 18:42 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-10-15 9:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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2019-10-12 11:37 ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Jean Louis
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