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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651773585; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=w7ndXiE1RNYatchL1z76+sSGIjk0hXMIOcj4+TLGdZU=; b=mtvCBSeDe5plXYfnQz8OF8jAWcD12rFhcCnl8N7PKRtOtmpeH3qXnx94YSelTt4dqA/TOJ v/AKoWjFv0b2ZBi+HmLwUed6IUccttHmI3ij+F0U+r1JUf/YRZOpBYKKJWqmizG9OTInEG zehmDWu1vA8X48dl7CQtLT8frSKTiF97lsgkttH3WumFr1EH8qy2N1x/JzJ0I+eOFiXemi aO+pbgToMVPyruI1qNembPyldx9ZwkuPsDFcf5a9IoEbtdYYH2dXz7XxVgJJRAjWoSZv4C I4TEjt6afiLHH64pDhQRg8DhFRtWZGmpN2NZuCtrDJDz5glUHWPoU8h4Yx/KNw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651773585; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=m+OjXhmONcrs8SGkGbHvHln0qq/itqTASA3YjiLz5MvxOmteQvNp3CS4bduR2rQ5BvU4pv OUyJPpLLj81wUSkCroDFuKYWXNvKAYQ2Svjqppp1xsvQdTVD8wei8KPUilrcudMMWGLE2v 9eE2JKQVPMRVSIphA0fmmjYBGMd1+dpmPi9+KTB1y62Z0KShWkENg7U9wPQF821IlBixUp wohNU0H9lQd6JjxT6V/kwnnYot3OlbG7l9OcZc4gk8OQJevxRFmZkl+7XtPIOjgZ6WKeE2 B/HXOrnC/K30rKN3jXUDkL76P2FtzFH+TtQFb1svTToV7EaJdbKtwPvkwlWYtA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=UWq4jhik; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.19 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=telenet.be header.s=r22 header.b=UWq4jhik; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=telenet.be; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2A6C231A26 X-Spam-Score: -11.19 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: tFXh/RPHDza7 --=-STeBJvBwZn3DrOgeMLk7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liliana Marie Prikler schreef op do 05-05-2022 om 19:27 [+0200]: > > Multiple profiles can already be managed in a declarative manner: > > "guix shell -m manifest.scm". =C2=A0I'd say that Guix Home adds some > > impurity (=E2=80=98guix home reconfigure=E2=80=99 installs/removes/repl= aces some > > symlinks in $HOME, which is a form of mutation).=C2=A0 Though maybe som= e > > people want to keep all their manifests together and don't mind the > > little extra mutation? > We're not talking about the same kind of profile management here.=C2=A0 B= y > profile management I mean creating, updating, modifying and deleting > a > profile that has the same basic properties as ~/.guix-profile or > ~/.guix-home.=C2=A0 Shell profiles are not that. ... ~/.guix-profile and ~/.guix-home profiles do not have the same basic properties? ~/.guix-profile is to be managed imperatively with "guix install", "guix package -u" or such or semi-imperatively mostly- declaratively with "guix package -m" , whereas ~/.guix-home is in theory only to be managed with "guix home reconfigure"?" And except for not having a location in $HOME somewhere and not being mutatable, if that's you mean, "guix shell" produces the same kind of profile as "guix home" AFAICT? Or are you referring to home-shell-profile-configuration, which is yet another thing? Greetings, Maxime --=-STeBJvBwZn3DrOgeMLk7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EABYKADUWIQTB8z7iDFKP233XAR9J4+4iGRcl7gUCYnQMVRccbWF4aW1lZGV2 b3NAdGVsZW5ldC5iZQAKCRBJ4+4iGRcl7rRGAP4sQD0tpKwJ97iiHsrQIpJ3PGdi 30dD5NpaZXCb2OYJqwD7BasndQ0EOR73G1x+LswrRnwxHe1i8zoUUvKYeYSadwo= =tO9k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-STeBJvBwZn3DrOgeMLk7--