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Then, if I
understood correctly, IMO I would say Guile should not really
care about Guix's bundling/unbundling. That is, adding (ice-9
base64) (or however we want to call it... maybe (encoding
base64) following Golang and Guile's (web ....) module) should
be totally independent of Guix. So, if we add (ice-9 base64)
to Guile then Guix should figure out what to do with it, but
it's Guix's concern not Guile's.
It's not some Guix-specific quirk. It's the same for at least
Debian. It benefits not only Guix itself but all users of the
software:
[...] allows [...] to make transverse
changes
such as applying security updates for a given software package
in a
single place and have them affect the whole system=E2=80=94someth=
ing
that
bundled copies prevent.
... that was written with Guix in mind, but it applies to every
distribution and everyone.
Besides, your goal appears to be to unbundle the base64 into a
single location (as a module of Guile), if we do that I think we
should go all the way -- just adding it to Guile increases
bundling instead of decreasing bundling, only if the various
upstreams are modified to unbundle and use the new location then
the unbundling is completed.
On 18-08-2022 02:09, Aleix Conchillo
Flaqu=C3=A9 wrote:
About Guix's
unbundling (maybe that's something that should go on Guix's
mailing list),
I don't see why, there's nothing to write about except "oops some
packages are bundling base64, let's unbundle those", and for
unbundling those, it seems more practical to write about that here
on guile-devel. Also I noticed I sent some messages to guix-devel
instead of guile-devel, correcting now.
I don't think
currently there's any unbundling for base64 modules or at least
not in a package I maintain guile-jwt (guile-jwt bundles
base64). And probably there's no unbundling because there's no
canonical implementation? Even if there was a canonical
implementation,=C2=A0how would that look like in Guix's guile-jwt=
package? What would the snippet actually do?
Currently, it's not done yet, presumably for that reason and maybe
also due to nobody having noticed it yet?
How it would look like, for upstreams that refuse to unbundle or
are unresponsive:
#~(begin
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (delete-file "local/copy=
/of/base64.scm")
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [also remove it from the=
Makefile.am]
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (substitute* (find-files=
"." "\\.scm$")
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (("(\\local =
base64 module\\)") "(gcrypt base64)")))
For responsive upstreams that do not mind these kind of
improvements, there is a preference for submitting a patch
upstream -- that way, everyone benefits, not only Guix.
Greetings,
Maxime.
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