From: jbranso@dismail.de
To: "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
"Tobias Geerinckx-Rice" <me@tobias.gr>,
guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 21:43:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2c61ba509e245c0c8578c6ecbf83f531@dismail.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86fsj33ku8.fsf@gmail.com>
July 14, 2022 9:06 AM, "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tobias, All,
>
> (French Bastille Day is a day off, so a day for trolling. ;-))
>
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 at 10:40, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
>
>> https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap
>
> Thanks for the link. It is helpful for understanding. :-)
>
>> Far from 'recent' in my book.
>
> Indeed, the announcement is from 2019-12-21. :-)
>
> Quoting:
>
> This will not be a "distro", but a hard fork of the OpenBSD
> kernel and userspace
>
> Not being a new distro means using the venerable pkg_* package manager,
> right? Well, I am confused by the aim…
They want to use pacman apparently. :)
>
>>> If you run OpenBSD kernel and OpenBSD userland, why not just run an
>>> OpenBSD system? :-)
>>
>> Because it contains blobs. HyperbolaBSD doesn't, by definition (see above).
>
> …because HyperboladBSD seems a new distro as gnewSense is a new distro
> free from problematic parts but based on an existing other one. Well,
> since it had been announced on late 2019 and we are in 2022, it could be
> interesting to know the status on this project.
>
>> Whatever my opinion on WSL, Darwin, and the Hurd, I must concede that they at least exist.
>>
>> Porting Guix to something that doesn't is a poor investment in comparison.
>
> Just to be sure to understand, the initial question is to port Guix to
> HyperbolaBSD which is a variant of OpenBSD (kernel and userland).
>
> Therefore, correct me if I misunderstand something, it means:
>
> 1. port Guix to a new kernel not using the GLibc
> 2. package all the (free) userland OpenBSD managed by Guix
>
> Bah I wish all the best for people who would tackle this. :-)
>
> Well, dreaming about science fiction,
Thanks for speaking plainly. I did not realize how difficult this project
would be. :)
> it appears me more approachable to
> have Guix running on something as Debian/kfreeBSD – it could be an
> interesting project with the help of Debian folks. Other said, “just”
> replace the Linux kernel by a variant of the FreeBSD one running with
> GNU GLibc.
>
> However, doing so, the point #2 (BSD userland) is lost.
>
> My understanding is: #1 and #2 require more work than the union of the
> Guix community *and* the other kernel community could provide, IMHO.
> Assuming both communities would be interested in. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-19 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-11 22:44 Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 0:16 ` indieterminacy
2022-07-12 2:18 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 3:56 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-07-12 13:39 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 8:25 ` Josselin Poiret
2022-07-12 13:36 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 20:12 ` Csepp
2022-07-14 10:23 ` zimoun
2022-07-14 10:40 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-07-14 13:06 ` zimoun
2022-07-14 15:38 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-15 11:09 ` Csepp
2022-07-19 21:46 ` jbranso
2022-07-19 21:44 ` jbranso
2022-07-19 21:43 ` jbranso [this message]
2022-07-19 21:41 ` jbranso
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2022-07-20 16:03 Raghav Gururajan
2022-07-20 16:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-21 16:27 ` zimoun
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