From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id OKv4Dz2MtV97UwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:03:57 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EITnCz2MtV9XOgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:03:57 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5B29404C4 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfTuV-0005UK-KK for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:18:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfTtv-0005Tr-KV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:17:59 -0500 Received: from 02d.relay.hey.com ([204.62.114.231]:4825) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfTtt-00016m-U0 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:17:59 -0500 Received: from hey.com (bigip-vip-new.rw-ash-int.37signals.com [10.20.0.24]) by 02.relay.hey.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF6E15FA99; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:17:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hey.com; s=heymail; t=1605730676; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=AynKPd552zynEpEprQ28sfvob91bbaG235+EOOEa9p0=; b=gWdA2U63M6q/aVCRl96m6fJBaTKMgjfr4PUhMUxITWcFlMM0cypycC3sdtVszy6P+qd5l9 AvLtyfIH9TuqhqZVg0oFhJ8hGst4kD9G3tlBk1axwZy17vzbXQ4ddgfrtNZJmwo5poToLM of3Sp+NnxZ894VwC+K7952Hy3YBF5I9iU8vMaLh7Qt69Wvz4OpIrvcu7r6uttMTIPrFxcO sKLVkwDYdSy17J0AX+WLiiAxWUwl3aOIN3LYkrUPlV/IxYKkbyqnX9GYVSlpfsBK/CN6MM PqsdtSpPA7Wgn5GXfsyKIvSg7hKY4jUThb2D6BRF12EagFfztB5tBX4hv0WxJA== Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:17:54 +0000 From: Ryan Prior To: aviva , Jan Wielkiewicz , Pierre Neidhardt Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution Message-ID: <23c326627f4668f3fc63d84296a6ebfe1ea594a5@hey.com> In-Reply-To: <87zh3ebhkp.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Subject: Re: updating Jami to "Together", Qt update? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=hey.com header.s=heymail header.b=gWdA2U63; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=hey.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 5.29 X-TUID: UpLSDhzC35g0 ----==_mimepart_5fb58173281eb_19b12dc8109096 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On November 18, 2020, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:=0D > aviva writes:=0D >=0D > > nobody i know uses it.=C2=A0 without a community of users, it has no=0D= > purpose=0D >=0D > There must always be a first user ;)=0D =0D I use Jami regularly with a few adventurous friends who like peer-to-=0D peer things. 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> nob= ody i know uses it.=C2=A0 without a community of users, it has no purpose=

There must always be a first user ;)

I use J= ami regularly with a few adventurous friends who like peer-to-peer things= . We often have to fall back to another video system like Jitsi to finish= our calls, but keep returning for more punishment because we believe in = the dream.

I have been specifically burned before by the Jami pack= age in Guix. It hasn't played well with other Jami software; I started ha= ving better luck when I switched to using the Debian package. But if you = get the Together release working well I'm absolutely down to give it anot= her shot!
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