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There is a template for AGI games but the license is > strange too, and it also requires some software to build it, and I've > no idea if it's compatible with QT AGI, and I've also no idea if QT > AGI works, doesn't have nonfree dependencies, etc.=20 >=20 > So that makes things way more complicated because here it probably > requires a lot of work to confirm that it's possible or not possible > to develop programs that run inside ScummVM with free software. I see we're hitting a recurring pattern of not knowing things. This is not aided by my personal disinterest for ScummVM, but I have to weigh that disinterest against the potential interest of thousands of users who are likely to only discover this argument to have taken place after we've reached a conclusion. Note, that this discussion started IIRC a year ago and we have practically known about actually existing FSDG violations since then.=20 My approach here is quite simple and pragmatic: Remove the games which obviously violate the FSDG (that is all the games currently depending on ScummVM as far as I know), but keep ScummVM for now to allow folks to experiment. If in some one to five years we still find no practical way of using ScummVM with only free software, that might be a reason to remove it then. WDYT?