[CC'ing some people in Guix I know to be interested in cryptocurrency] Hi, Guix packages some cryptocurrency(*) software (bitcoin, monero, some people have been working on packaging ethereum). So far, it only appeared that clients are being packaged. More recently, a ‘miner’ for monero has been packaged (https://issues.guix.gnu.org/54068). At least for bitcoin, mining is known to consume an absurd amount of energy (the footprint of a whole country, and 1 Bitcoin transaction is said to be equivalent to 735121 Visa transactions)[1]. Guix has a policy against including malware[citation needed 2], and furthering global warming[3] (and energy prices[4], if [3] is not bad enough for you) seems rather bad behaviour to me. Would these miners be considered malware in Guix? TBC I'm not making a case for rejecting all inefficient software, only software that is absurdly inefficient by design -- a, say, math library not using vectorised operations might be quite a bit less inefficient than a math library using vectorised operations, but that can be resolved with some programming work and it would seem to pale in contrast to the mining situation. Greetings, Maxime. (*) For this e-mail, I'm only considering cryptocurrencies based on some ‘mining’ system and assuming that monero and ethereum have the same energy problems as Bitcoin, although possibly with a smaller constant factor. [1]: See, e.g., https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/2021/03/09/business/dealbook/bitcoin-climate-change.html / https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/2021/03/09/business/dealbook/bitcoin-climate-change.html [2]: zero hits when searching for "malware" in the manual! [3]: I'm sure you can find some sources about destabilising climate systems, species extinctions, fish getting third-degree burns, island nations gradually disappearing because of raising sea levels ... [3]: I'm not sure actually that mining would be (partially) responsible for increasing energy prices but it seems plausible to me.