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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.39 X-Spam-Score: -4.39 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 791F7106D1 List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: sF9IHscrfSkc --Sig_/Jh_7Q7p/Q51whQ=.LvEo4KA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 17:15:26 +0000 Christopher Baines wrote: =20 > I guess I'm still a team sceptic, I think the idea is interesting and > I have added myself as a member of some teams. But the main impact on > me so far is that I've just been getting some unwanted personal email, > messages that previously wouldn't have landed in my inbox have been > doing so. >=20 > Regarding this change specifically though, I'm unclear how it would > impact the things I push for others. I pushed some patches today, > would this mean that I'd have to look at what team/teams are involved > (according to /etc/teams.scm.in) for each commit/series, and then > either continue if I'm a member of that team, or skip it if I'm not? I'm on Chris' side. We need less burden to review/push, instead of more formal rules/obligations. Speaking about me, I'm in the Java team, where my knowledge is best, but in the past I also "wildered" in the Python and Ruby areas. I think I always tried to be cautious with my reviews though: If I saw it was just a simple version update with no dependency changes, and it builds/runs afterwards, I gave an OK and/or pushed it, although I'm not the super-expert. If it was too hot for me, I left my fingers from it or asked a known expert for help. "Teams" are a nice hint (for example, adding a tag to the bug entry), but I wouldn't make it too formal. 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