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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1669187428; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=XzSGCGAkPHDZHDQBmQbUtx9MYhuQKn64z8rYd7v/u7E=; b=trgZd9FCoTOj2jgw4fgI4NP7wCLVdX1LlJMKd1ePjj6NpdKBn9YaEewDmV+yvGna9MfKWG yo0F7b9ZYgURlR2GGhbSGkC20EE95xgNW9rSnRBbp4VxbwdbWUckwQdACxibOnPmD1O2WT AKLly9kJajnAS+dLyZSxNu28VhXg8LBVxcjruV7dUsoZzVS3tNeCpFF1GnJvmPSof0rsJf 26d2t4Xrdf0ELBXygjPbdeH0tJvW0LoWCc+EhT+1mVJL8OTMwyRRuc5JeSXM0kWRijMVSh 7kBptUAdQnFyWsqiv925ykRRFOTay6yYOyhlewjCaF5YAqtX06iS8dqZ+kBovA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1669187428; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=QCYJk0aWWVr0vYoNRRclQbbzufpHpWQsxvmB4wIhdlcF3zCWR0hv1vNcOcWMHr43VyeesK Og81FOx2W1Ra9U2Bn9bMvRxHiKFcFFsiNGTzXkhuekHl+kMWp4XBxs+SoyeOMU6SU5AlDk WxCG3hlTPUxZt1rJ/IgxOsMQWHI9PM5kc2fshJE1vxyfWhvc+hEaMnJU/AJuu3bwSXBeJt /IZrbbC6ixEbDUfKzL3LLl/X4529Twm1NVvLiHtkXbmJWwGkMILKu7CoppQH4fAnsAH/7O /f6/yoqI9gfn+bC0ZOikBpQRzy1gD7SU+zAH37Ff0cCLSaP6u4F34SNbZ+nWyQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b="Q6q mJX+"; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b="Q6q mJX+"; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B718A3A3AC X-Spam-Score: -5.09 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 84GYarhVp0xF On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:12:55 +0100 Julien Lepiller wrote: > I don't get why you want a picture. Could you share an example of what it would look like? I was just thinking of something like a flowchart for the build phases. For example, python-build-system's phases as a flowchart in mermaidjs: %% python-build-system phases flowchart TB unpack --> ensure-no-mtimes-pre-1980 --> enable-bytecode-determinism --> ensure-no-cythonized-files --> build --> install --> add-install-to-pythonpath --> add-install-to-path --> wrap --> check --> sanity-check --> rename-pth-file --> strip Here's the rendered mermaid flowchart: https://kroki.io/mermaid/svg/eNptjz0OwjAMhfeeIgujJdhgYeAMXMBNjGKRP8WuqnJ6SloRCeHt2Z_t9w4HUxb1OcE4cXAgiyhFUzwKyfAIebYeq5r7bTBrTamgfRqAq2makkyVIGWIypEEyqpOl_Pxg-wEjoFgXJRsdgSOlGrkxBL_nbHNDL_IwYMDSWeavy45iWII3z_oHOw90AxbqILq-8ovsg_bbK5YOmk9bSmbEkysC3ybG1PXZJGgqG9OO62VyxteU2aW The above diagram can easily be rewritten in plantuml and plantuml supports ascii diagrams also but ymmv: https://www.planttext.com/api/plantuml/svg/RL0x2iCm3DrrYbn0q6vj0YK7wUBOAX6nPMChbFJqTPmiXMxl8_6UD1OrMTVW0PJLKvSsdQFWjB9tMBQY5Bgd0BGvW7wLPEmoG4zIrame4ODoe8AfiklzTccUcJpXj2dPw0WTAUN0mYNyRDeMnXzo-69FfPejk4DyLCnIKxq_cN4EJmKrub4q6Pt_U8VwpYQTotOckvou667Ti4cLvjes42QTMubzG3EdORyv9e2HnDK7VG40 @startuml title python-build-system \n start :unpack; :ensure-no-mtimes-pre-1980; :enable-bytecode-determinism; :ensure-no-cythonized-files; :build -->; :install -->; :add-install-to-pythonpath; :add-install-to-path; :wrap -->; :check -->; :sanity-check; :rename-pth-file; :strip; stop @enduml Where you thinking of capturing different information about the phases?