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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , zimoun Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1645775290; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=geknp0lBo72ChvJVMorQ6d3oxuUH2msAmJvOJK5u8e8=; b=RvVP3oeGRQfXfsEEMq7KI7gki3pmG7Xnft7/vg15UZiCUKZ2N1OYAM7VhKGiQ5Ec2cshli 2yabse9ZCtMdjT6dKgI9R1A3MZnDUPjPcWTeF5nxg3RA8G9OCK4332C8ZVlwJouXHQ3SKQ F9EdgvtGsrHLg1bMdXjmY/hfC7wkgBTKiwuiBpIn7dv0b2cC7MOM8lETqo0idUilOLrrxm z0DO25DV88gz+MdoB7i3bJg3Hor2ipFrQwErGCsZXgEwKZk0r7HG/kDyqnhzdeMSYScU4l TLWckdfp6G9AseMg1ECPqPw2Sm5UEuX1FkWZjHCWS+yuHG1L4MFkro0V5IQCbA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1645775290; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oG6nl2lvL/0ZBNFhmZSPi6ihqo0KHvL/6IxKJQ9YWSlvdq/XsTbR5sl63y25yTv9qWEV3m +QmGGQwqPabC1n4VSF5KSp9oTACz0Ni8zRLbTvaHEB/LkagXoe3rQ9XYPy72vurgkY/uvB YaH+FpiPCS+Um8akvwtPnlaOEnNBVGwXspyAecWkrVmiqM5iVuyX4IJoQjboYw98hRd3ja XVZxsG5u6zxFXVUdSxhf99Wa0qChnEsrpW6r234KOKKDi7HDyis20vxZlZii9qc5pTsOoW Qo0kqVFpPsNIxXdSvuYUrJvMsSuI9UlcE/JGlI13ZcY4KmxTUbszVT/RCMlosQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=marvid.fr header.s=202110 header.b=zHacOT9p; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.73 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=marvid.fr header.s=202110 header.b=zHacOT9p; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A9E9713E09 X-Spam-Score: -2.73 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: gqL7EiZjgi5Z Hi, And, how exactly can "sex characteristics" be involved in the kind of interactions we're having in this community ? In particular, as this has already been explained patiently enough, how are "sex characteristics" any different from "gender identity" from its perspective ? If someone here is = able to discriminate against someone else based on their "sex characteristics" (whatever that means) independently from their "gender identity", then I'm ready to bet their problems doesn't belong in the Guix community and its us= ual scope and had rather be discussed within the legal framework instead. Are dickpics going to be necessary to sign commits from now on ? Also, why isn't this message part of the other thread[1] ? How is this discussion any different ? Am I missing something obvious here ? If so I am truly sorry but I re-read Zimoun's message a couple times and I still fail = to see the difference with Taylan's patch. Has the OP accidentally missed it by any chance ? And to avoid remaining on the implicit side of things, yes, I = do oppose. Tissevert [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-02/msg00198.html Le Fri, 25 Feb 2022 01:09:46 +0100, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice a =C3=A9crit : > Hi, >=20 > On 2022-02-25 1:05, zimoun wrote: > > So, since we are at it, let give a look at the most recent version > > v2.1 [3]. :-) I propose to adopt their extended list: > >=20 > > regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible > > disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and > > expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, > > nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, > > religion, or sexual identity and orientation. > >=20 > > Any opposition? =20 >=20 > I think this is an excellent idea, Simon (and Ricardo who suggested > the same). >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > T G-R >=20 > Sent from a Web browser. Excuse or enjoy my brevity. >=20