From: Bengt Richter <bokr@bokr.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On raw strings in <origin> commit field
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 03:07:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220102020747.GA9039@LionPure> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b72eb9430694fe7bccb6b37f9cfce7d8e47f1385.camel@gmail.com>
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On +2022-01-01 12:12:33 +0100, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote:
> Am Freitag, dem 31.12.2021 um 20:41 -0500 schrieb Mark H Weaver:
> > I disagree with the last line above. What makes you think that I'm
> > presupposing that the tag does change?
> >
> > There's a difference between "presupposing that the tag does change"
> > and "not assuming that the tag will not change". Do you see the
> > difference?
> I'm pretty sure ¬assume(¬X) = assume(¬¬X) in this concept. You have to
> start with some assumptions and while ideally we'd like to encode "I
> don't care", we do not have a system that allows us to do so.
>
> > > However, if we are always talking about more than one possible
> > > "1.2.3" (with the included future tag that we have yet to witness),
> > > we lose the basis by which we currently assign "1.2.3" as the
> > > version
> >
> > I see what you're getting at here, but still I disagree. Our basis
> > for associating version "1.2.3" with commit XYZ is simply that
> > upstream had indicated that version "1.2.3" was commit XYZ. That
> > historical fact is immutable.
> History is a social construct, it's not immutable.
>
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone,
“it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
--
Regards,
Bengt Richter
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-28 20:55 On raw strings in <origin> commit field Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-29 8:39 ` zimoun
2021-12-29 20:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-30 12:43 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 0:02 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 1:23 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 3:27 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 9:31 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-12-31 11:07 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 12:31 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-12-31 13:18 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 13:15 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 15:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 17:21 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 20:52 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 23:36 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 1:33 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-01 5:00 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 10:33 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-01 20:37 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 22:55 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-02 22:57 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-03 21:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-03 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-04 19:55 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-04 23:42 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-05 9:28 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-05 20:43 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-06 10:38 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-06 11:25 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-02 19:30 ` zimoun
2022-01-02 21:35 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-03 9:22 ` zimoun
2022-01-03 18:13 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-03 19:07 ` zimoun
2022-01-03 20:19 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-03 23:00 ` zimoun
2022-01-04 5:23 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-04 8:51 ` zimoun
2022-01-04 13:15 ` zimoun
2022-01-04 19:45 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-04 19:53 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 23:56 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 0:15 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-30 1:13 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-12-30 12:56 ` zimoun
2021-12-31 3:15 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-12-31 7:57 ` Taylan Kammer
2021-12-31 10:55 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-01 1:41 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 11:12 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-01 17:45 ` Timothy Sample
2022-01-01 19:52 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-02 23:00 ` Timothy Sample
2022-01-03 15:46 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-01 20:19 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-01 23:20 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-02 12:25 ` Mark H Weaver
2022-01-02 14:09 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-02 2:07 ` Bengt Richter [this message]
2021-12-31 17:56 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-03 15:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-03 16:29 ` Vagrant Cascadian
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