From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8GfZBUu5tGA1WgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:24:11 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id AKyEAUu5tGDiHQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 10:24:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9485112421 for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:24:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55988 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnf5d-0003p9-LR for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 06:24:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnf5L-0003p0-4L for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 06:23:51 -0400 Received: from mailout1.hostsharing.net ([83.223.95.204]:58063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnf5I-0000Wr-Oy for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 06:23:50 -0400 Received: from h20.hostsharing.net (h20.hostsharing.net [IPv6:2a01:37:1000::53df:5fec:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.hostsharing.net", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS DV RSA Mixed SHA256 2020 CA-1" (verified OK)) by mailout1.hostsharing.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C81810192623 for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from anna (p200300ddff43b6002d639e662424c791.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:dd:ff43:b600:2d63:9e66:2424:c791]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h20.hostsharing.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B29C436FC for ; Mon, 31 May 2021 12:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 12:23:42 +0200 From: Tobias Platen To: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#47615: [PATCH 0/9] Add 32-bit powerpc support Message-Id: <20210531122342.699cd8cfa0aa4749e5afb1b2@platen-software.de> In-Reply-To: <87im35twme.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zgxwsxsd.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnscdj0x.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87y2clvx24.fsf@gnu.org> <87im35twme.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; powerpc64le-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: none client-ip=83.223.95.204; envelope-from=guix@platen-software.de; helo=mailout1.hostsharing.net X-Spam_score_int: -31 X-Spam_score: -3.2 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.618, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622456650; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=WWKB73gQCaQZw6KDzPQpWe277QWoVUIjJIFyQohjLeA=; b=nWDGlZCzLuPVmWl4ue6n44gJC4kaofR7KEHK688rgBOY28JnD9meoo+TuacGr5MrxED1gt aPowHbL7G5xDRD/zZwnqF7Nal9kMhWE8J2Tftg11Y/ko5amUfW17Og0CEC9ALZ75B3xIFO exvfSOK967ph6b3haT3nNTobzs6yvpjWJGs0EMjzHzax39CzS6C7DgKIOty4iTRnhCLU4b QGE2pI3vIkOtMtWUP9Y2t2MuhpokRka9jubBMyYmXjqHq58oAGayZlsIH0VJi44G8qYN3v XjR4vHlW6e7Zh+SQTfPUaLkYP95w3vcUYWEv9TroFlfOF3oCMNpiUJEwaaII3w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622456650; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HdX1s4v+olcxcfxNwzkcmEOM8WXt/u0tOtYfR3bGf5MTWJNb6COcTpZG+YpQMwg6pJqTb0 hpbctNFnlNofEEQNu7wz3f/cNVm+EgSwhaCEyDhg3Asku8m7bdEBAhhIxwaaEQtbm1q3ib zJuYAIs0+pYnBC7H+8agj+NHzEzuTLGZe/kVMDuzIK7/FPRikqv0Y2589CP5uLb2z6NjTb H8qqwCCpl4i7cXOi9kXuCGx3V3zPCz90L/hy4qUVNRg5sAcWjQ7b5l+TB8ZIhp+AaThVgC 716r9ww3AqRgkx58Q0FfQLfchebK7lNba9nCnEECFkDCufeH3QBAyuEO0svImA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.43 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9485112421 X-Spam-Score: -0.43 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Qm7xw21QLG6c For me the best way to run 32 bit powerpc software, is using KVM on a POWER9 system. The https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/ will run 32 bit software as well. Tobias On Wed, 26 May 2021 16:09:29 +0200 Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Efraim Flashner skribis: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:24:03PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > [...] > > >> Maybe it’s more readable to keep it as a bullet list, like: > >> > >> @item mips64el-linux (@emph{unsupported}) > >> … > >> > >> @item powerpc-linux (@emph{unsupported}) > >> … > >> > >> with a sentence explaining what “unsupported” means. > > > > That was kind-of my idea with grouping them together > > Yes, but people who just skim through that page may just see that > ‘powerpc-linux’ is listed, without noticing that there’s a sentence ten > line above that says “The following arches are not supported”. Having > “unsupported” next to it should avoid that (yes, I’ve learned to be > super cautious. :-)). > > >> IMO guix.m4 should either require --with-courage or emit a prominent > >> warning for these. > > [...] > > > The problem then becomes whoever tinkers with it will have to keep > > either a custom guix.m4 for their guix package or a custom guix package > > with "--with-courage" as a configure-flag. > > True. In that case, let it go without ‘--with-courage’ but emit a > warning with AC_MSG_WARN that points to the relevant section of the > manual. > > Deal? > > Thanks! > > Ludo’. > -- Tobias Platen