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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621193030; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=TDz//MsPZZR1jWZIGzCjqRb2YyP869jMwJ7/0oCfsNk=; b=VugbKx5S8TBeCSoqsvmqAPM5QZrkFAKzUCvu+McXXXR2ez0xScnVfnnay59zmA/c8BunzV Nz2hUPT45Bi6JZfh5hF6qiidscmRwfBItRDjEZuBgzog8fmIcTrD54dJdQj+FwzoCboOHq PaajvhwVv2jMg376Kg8wkVVbBoF0/xrbF5rYo/4LuzaGr8k/THNQjxz8ITPQUJkBoGOEiB rHI23REHSXbd/f9quOLJgNRZHG27EcCZWVrOLsB/CqSCJsJ2nl6y0VU/KfpO/MjLAZJJcF 0IbdJnRzAkbcLmEEKFp8CnEwt10Ad2kTqOVSmeRJIRDM7VL87c1HxXnaCxz26A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621193030; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BRgms6ojKRpU9ul5HBIzV9Qs3URESMa0wnRlb2wbSPNJq2A3n8l/vMi3MnsklDHHGndv2+ oNLrq/7YL9XQWCYPMkKSVnXi9MrADYiuTyUsz50bh/nuXycDddK6FlaYfhmhht4N+OW+3v aK751VP90kcRi6hylFcinypbEjG5wxsfhqfZfNLlMu8Z1CoqAb5lSmt7bIBs/TQmU0/Kes KZpouFyHuyvONgv+k4xi8yKDmLRW7hrvJpRVyntD8BWCd6msmj6EG+iOl27TnYwtXp2olC c7HLi8W9cpIUn80AOhDsszSGp0v00Rqb0LasFWl9/4sNI9rMCWcIZmOhCe3LPA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=JDlzAg5V; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.15 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=JDlzAg5V; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 82532179B4 X-Spam-Score: 1.15 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: WR7Gi/sNungg On Sat, 15 May 2021 23:24:41 +0300 Efraim Flashner wrote: > package-transformations applied to the operating-system field of the > os-config. > Gosh, yes please. I keep bumping into this while debugging services. Also: * substitutes over bittorrent might be cool. * split packages more, similar to how Alpine does it. (i said i'd work on this and i intend to) * deduplicate similar but not identical files (if the file system allows it) * better GDB integration * better initramfs environment, so debugging isn't such a horrible experience * integrate environments with GUIs. if you've used nested rio on Plan 9, you know what I'm talking about. I already have some utility programs for this, but they are pretty basic and only tested on my setup. * accessible installer! even Arch has this now. (also something I want to work on eventually)