From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id hNsJN5ovWWA+AwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 00:00:26 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id yE5wMpovWWDwQwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 00:00:26 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D1AF25C37 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 01:00:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41988 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOUTB-000860-1i for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:00:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOUSe-00085o-OP for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:59:52 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:47426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOUSa-00023K-G8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:59:51 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F4BLn4h4rzDsZW; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1616457586; bh=z24RbGNAganVchCRQE+NEgt2OEW/SDvbcBtJmNMNwTA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=L+s8Jr0AbOwrhGqY04iqQwzNsLzap1olHMVtk4RQjBAZ/L3GzOt5Cf6D29rlJOYKf 1sQDtiZEHEITNyEhvJaZoLnqUo7NCVAjKt7JN7rmAXZZGKLDy1nH95bQTX0NyqVFh0 V4waEBpUNVGfjNhQLJ6XQGF1u5ImjSli6x9r6Ucw= X-Riseup-User-ID: 17AF0D6212C3912B1AEAC801BA14D21FE7759F2B937E3FE1CD5B975AFA323C82 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F4BLm351jz5wFk; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:06:48 +0100 From: raingloom To: Gurjeet Singh Subject: Re: Self-contained GuixSD Installer Message-ID: <20210322190648.6abbc784@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616457626; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=SbkiTvBsKEUgYi33KWDMyRrm+K/5xJsESDhpCK4KcHk=; b=GK3SvxoiM94JURi81v0XASAfKhg68Rff1esmNfXHjzwGw4uVs6M+FdTw5w483uoonrRrXY OJ0laXF+354EbetmxBrv31cBj7Z9Yf9X+VsTNvekfVQKlo2SVHW3mM72OMr3T/tXTnF1rk mjIfxB8jKpBiFNPiePqTgLKICzyZ9k4ntRV4A2DuvIf4ZrrQ9ua/S4s/iQC6szfnzqdz88 jHWLsGxO9wLZlPoyqn3NMwtVuncTJIAklwc259a0XK0nG/gUqA8P+8vDyrAHYIvBlUI2N/ T9YUYmciJbj9dlNNCPVL7i9ojN16vLyjCqzOVWsX+6ga7CKvi8EXfyCe+ckTWA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616457626; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YaVTLSgYI9UdPJiNF9BZCmb0OGQwBfXIdHGxlxAT/SQc8zfpEOHjKG+Q41xJTE/sEJ661X j/8Swf4AdW686xEymhSW/uGQejZnhsI43VbSk3cuK8xcaSyUBJyhNnig1bMwpGlMt+yY0U LpmMK9wL4PtYNsQIiPSDzXNjeHGuyZDmcodyi4X+//6zsa86PSopT1S1B6Yu12BjBddEvm YG1fCb0p5QEU+MrqQ/PnjrO1WQRJ5WtZticK8EHvq9APMVnQM6bWDlHBcgzli0IQbBGYn/ PPU+aVCQhsYR9hhrBg00QjMRCGy7YG6vfq1g8Zax8dcbduQ75esorLhr5KHN7w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=L+s8Jr0A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=L+s8Jr0A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7D1AF25C37 X-Spam-Score: -1.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: RmtyJviMOkmK On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 18:56:05 -0700 Gurjeet Singh wrote: > Does a self-contained GuixSD installer exist? I tried running GuixSD > in a VM (in VBox, on macOS), and for that I downloaded the ISO image. > The ISO image, after a few prompts, then tries to install everything > from the internet. > > If everything is being downloaded and installed from the internet, why > does the image have to be so huge (~500MB > guix-system-install-1.2.0.x86_64-linux.iso.xz)? > > Is it possible to deliver the /gnu/store on the ISO so that a minimal > system can be installed and started, without having to connect to the > Internet? The user is free to install and upgrade packages from the > internet, but they should be able to run GuixSD without the Internet > being a hard requirement. > > Best regards, > -- > Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/ > I think the installer does a `guix pull` before running `guix system init`, so it has to download fresh packages. I haven't used the graphical installer, but at leat that's how the old school CLI install worked, at least as far as I remember. You could just not guix pull, or if you did, you could pull the specific commit that was used to build the system. At least in theory.