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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Ryan Prior <ryanprior@hey.com>
Subject: Re: Login to a guix container
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:30:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210125083037.hqkaalsoy6l3xfdi@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn1tjwyr.fsf@elephly.net>

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:29:32AM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> In your requirements for an audit, how does a “Guix container” differ
> from a “Linux container”?  Guix uses the kernel features like cloning
> namespaces and unsharing the filesystem directly.  It merely mounts
> individual store locations into the filesystem namespace.
> 
> “Malpractice” is a very big word for using user namespaces instead of
> chroot without a “serious audit”.

I agree. The alternative is using sftp chroot - if it is for file
transfers only, or a full chroot. A container should be safer as long
as we consider the Linux kernel itself safe. The reason I posed the
question was just that I was thinking the solution may be a bit over
the top.

Maybe more over the top would be to run Linux or even GNU Hurd in
qemu/kvm. The more I read about the GNU Hurd the more I like it (I
read this stuff for relaxation rather than work ;). Maybe we'll
experiment with that a little too. We can easily dedicate 1GB of RAM
for such VMs.

Anyway, off-topic on guix-dev, so I apologise. I must say that 'guix
environment -C' is one of the greatest Guix inventions and I just
start thinking of more applications beyond hosting web servers and
development environments. It is lovely :). Thanks everyone!

Pj.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-24 22:05 Login to a guix container Pjotr Prins
2021-01-25  1:41 ` Ryan Prior
2021-01-25  7:29   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-01-25  8:30     ` Pjotr Prins [this message]
2021-01-25 11:01       ` Ricardo Wurmus

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