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From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, tinycc-devel@nongnu.org,
	Michael Matz <matz.tcc@frakked.de>,
	Paul Sherwood <paul.sherwood@codethink.co.uk>,
	bootstrappable@freelists.org
Subject: Re: [bootstrappable] Re: wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello'
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:43:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210108144347.12d82f90@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ble0ueq7.fsf@gnu.org>

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Hi Janneke,

On Fri, 08 Jan 2021 07:25:52 +0100
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Alignment could be disabled on the CPU
> >
> >   https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0464/f/system-control/register-descriptions/system-control-register
> >
> > but I don't think EABI wants that.  
> 
> Hmm, what does this mean?  We are not really using EABI, or are we?

VFP is a floating point unit on ARM CPUs.  It has been designed to either
require aligned members and be fast, or not, depending on a CPU flag that
for example the kernel can set.

See also https://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armcc/armcc_chr1359124231926.htm
for much more detail.

ARM is a famously mix-and-match CPU, so the client can choose whatever
they want.

If you choose aligned-only, you will get a bus error on misaligned access.
A single program really shouldn't be choosing--it's more the entire platform
doing the choosing.

EABI has standardized on particular settings, among which is required alignment.

<https://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armcc/armcc_chr1359124228744.htm>

> So alignment should be fixed, but that's more work and you propose a
> workaround, right?  

No, I wanted to find out what's going on first.

Now that grischka commented and I looked up the malloc docs, I suggest
to fix mes libc's malloc to align what it gives back.  That's all--that
should fix everything.

We should provide maxalign_t to make it known to the user what the
malloc alignment we are using is.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-08 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-04 17:01 wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-05  0:49 ` [bootstrappable] " jeremiah
2021-01-05 16:58 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-06 11:32 ` [bootstrappable] " Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-06 11:46   ` [bootstrappable] " Andrius Štikonas via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2021-01-06 14:03     ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-14 21:37     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-15  1:27       ` jeremiah
2021-01-21 11:09         ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-21 17:52           ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-28 13:40             ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-28 13:44               ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-06 14:38 ` [bootstrappable] " Paul Sherwood
2021-01-07 10:43   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-07 20:10     ` [bootstrappable] " Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-07 20:23       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-07 22:52         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08  6:25           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08  8:05             ` [Tinycc-devel] " arnold
2021-01-08 13:02               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08 13:43             ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2021-01-08 14:07               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 16:15                 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08 18:56                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 21:11                     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 22:13                       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08  7:16           ` [Tinycc-devel] " grischka
2021-01-08 13:25             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 13:36               ` [bootstrappable] Re: [Tinycc-devel] " Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-08 15:16                 ` [Tinycc-devel] [bootstrappable] " Vincent Lefevre
2021-01-08 16:12               ` [Tinycc-devel] [bootstrappable] " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-25 22:47       ` ARM Unified Assembly Language - GNU as does some weird stuff Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-25 23:12         ` [bootstrappable] " Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-26  1:14         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08  0:29 ` wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' Jan Wielkiewicz
2021-01-20 20:19 ` Timothy Sample
2021-01-25 18:48   ` Efraim Flashner
2021-01-29  7:23     ` [bootstrappable] " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-29 10:18       ` andrius--- via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2021-01-29 16:02         ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)

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