From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A plan for parameterized packages
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:46:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201115214658.41223d15@scratchpost.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eeku8trb.fsf@gnu.org>
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Hi Ludo,
nice feature!
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 17:33:28 +0100
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> An important question: do we have examples of packages for which we’d
> like to have parameters?
For the embedded/flash rom side:
* Enable/disable building the documentation. I really don't need a 40 MiB
manual stored onto a 16 MiB firmware flash chip. If that's better done as an
extra output, fair enough.
* Enable/disable obscure dependencies: Library packages that pull in 400 MiB Qt
into the closure for a thing no one (TM) uses should probably provide a switch to
disable that GUI. Sometimes a package provides multiple GUIs for different
toolkits, in which case one should be able to choose one toolkit and not
build for the others.
* No, even in 2020, I won't start using AmigaFS, NFSv3 and whatever old
protocol/format is still around and superseded by other protocols.
The gexp-functionality of being able to select individual files of a package
is already very useful for use cases an embedded developer would have
(and that's there for a long time already). So that's nice!
For the kind of feature flags I have in mind, it usually means I don't want
to have the feature *anywhere*--for example, if I don't want to have Qt or
Kerberos or whatever, that's because I want to save the space and thus
it should be able to be *globally* specified--at least per profile.
It doesn't help one bit for space savings if package A doesn't pull in
Kerberos or latex or or Haskell bindings for a Raspberry Pi serial port
library (guess why that's oddly specific ;) ), but package B does.
However, sometimes using static libraries is better and there's no reason to
build the shared libraries. But that's very much local to whatever I'm
trying to do (at least local to a profile if not package).
I would advise against doing a grep -r -- --enable and introducing all those
as parameters. Rather I would check the closure of stuff and if the closure
goes from 1200 MiB to 50 MiB, chances are a parameter would be nice there :)
I guess the kind of flags I envision would be set at profile level.
From experience with Gentoo before I can tell you that the combinatory
explosion is a real problem and most of the "more advanced" (toggled more
switches :) ) combinations did not work the majority of the time.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-15 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-15 16:33 A plan for parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-15 17:30 ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-11-15 17:40 ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-11-15 17:44 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-15 18:09 ` zimoun
2020-11-16 11:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-16 12:03 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-11-16 14:05 ` zimoun
2020-11-15 17:37 ` zimoun
2020-11-16 11:54 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-15 18:51 ` Taylan Kammer
2020-11-15 20:46 ` Danny Milosavljevic [this message]
2020-11-15 21:16 ` zimoun
2020-11-16 11:25 ` Make mutiple packages from outputs (Was: A plan for parameterized packages) 宋文武
2020-11-16 14:53 ` Make mutiple packages from outputs Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-16 15:10 ` Make mutiple packages from outputs (Was: A plan for parameterized packages) zimoun
2020-11-15 21:24 ` A plan for parameterized packages raingloom
2020-11-16 1:54 ` Ryan Prior
2020-11-16 5:38 ` Clozure size zimoun
2020-11-18 1:30 ` A plan for parameterized packages Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2020-11-20 11:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-20 14:38 ` zimoun
2020-11-20 19:44 ` Christopher Baines
2020-11-16 14:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
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2020-11-17 14:25 Stephen Christie
2020-11-17 15:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-17 18:13 ` Stephen Christie
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