From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id QJ6aCWKwol8EEwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:45:06 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id IIeUBWKwol9hFwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:45:06 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E57F0940111 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaJ60-0002tG-UE for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 08:45:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaJ4w-0001bu-S3 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 08:44:00 -0500 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:56450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaJ4t-0003IH-0g; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 08:43:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (80-110-126-103.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at [80.110.126.103]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B45BE33604EB; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:43:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:43:50 +0100 From: Danny Milosavljevic To: Leo Prikler Subject: Re: GNOME in Guix Message-ID: <20201104144350.68cc6d24@scratchpost.org> In-Reply-To: <6ea08f910493be04f088db1ac6b98b1ecbd6d968.camel@student.tugraz.at> References: <9324ae97b8c1c2452386154d56922558b8274812.camel@student.tugraz.at> <20201103101430.711ce21a@scratchpost.org> <898d3e29025888a0d218ddf8b468a676ece2490f.camel@student.tugraz.at> <20201103202416.628375fb@scratchpost.org> <20201104090815.05654315@scratchpost.org> <6ea08f910493be04f088db1ac6b98b1ecbd6d968.camel@student.tugraz.at> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.7 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_//pCWq9oH5zcAmx5fWoEiXBE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Received-SPF: none client-ip=85.13.145.193; envelope-from=dannym@scratchpost.org; helo=dd26836.kasserver.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 08:36:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.39 X-TUID: ay23N7YpnFiS --Sig_//pCWq9oH5zcAmx5fWoEiXBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, 04 Nov 2020 10:45:06 +0100 Leo Prikler wrote: > But we already know all this from our earlier discussion. I *know* you already know that--but "we" don't. I want someone to actually proceed further, because I cannot. Hence I posted this on guix-devel (for the first time with an easy short recipe to follow). > > Now how do I get more info, using Guix tools? =20 > What kind of information do you even want to gather? To be honest, you > lose me every time you end up establishing knowledge, that already > exists between this thread and the mentioned Guile-GI issue. I am hereby asking someone who knows how this part of guix works to find out what happens here. > I suppose if you want to look at how environments are built, building > them with higher verbosity would be a start, no? Thanks. That is what I wanted to know. I tried guix environment -v 99 -d 1 and it adds nothing useful, especially = not how the other libgobject got in there. So I still want to know. > For the purpose of this, it would probably suffice to look at something > simpler than guile-gi in its totality, perhaps just gobject- > introspection + glib (note, that you'd need Scheme code to access the > latter). 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