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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Mathieu Othacehe Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.61 X-TUID: Ve97JmpyCULH --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 01:47:25PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >=20 > >> I'm actually not really sure how one would use the installer on one of > >> the boards. I think the bare-bones disk-images would be best; just > >> download it and flash it onto the board or an SD card and edit > >> /etc/config.scm to add your user and services. Or to boot up into the > >> installer and overwrite itself. > > > > The CI is already building substitutes for two images > > (hurd-barebones-qcow2-image and pine64-barebones-raw-image). We could > > maybe release 1.2 version of those images. >=20 > Keep in mind that images use space at ftp.gnu.org and also take time to > build (having CI up-to-date helps with that, but it doesn=E2=80=99t not > eliminate build times due to the =E2=80=98update-guix-package=E2=80=99 da= nce that takes > place during =E2=80=9Cmake release=E2=80=9D.) We could also list out the commands for building the image and have "community images" built and tested by people who actually have the boards. > Likewise, if we ship more images, we should update the =E2=80=9CSystem > Installation=E2=80=9D section accordingly and be clear about what users c= an > expect. My slightly more featureful pine64plus image I built for myself came out to 1.5 GiB and 291 MiB with bzip2. I don't know how much space the other images or x86* images are. We could also build and test them on a different schedule and upload them at a later date as they're shown to be working. > I guess all I=E2=80=99m saying is that we should not make such decisions = lightly > and be sure to examine all the consequences. >=20 > Thanks, > Ludo=E2=80=99. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl+FwqUACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1EU3BAAgLUBCKLhz8YfQtdLflNa+Xqhu5V84GjT0p24F9eGksXCXFap3YAt8ZE4 TEO0yEYbzuR9GjZN39aDxU07Bw3KzEhlhz294LRIVcki63CS6tGJZ2g5G08Vz+Yn z4bLPkM9iJwmoyBz9vlNvas2bWMX2um6PS871G+4ZZPFbMIzg6ntywWgtKJoQrb6 oT3V9EdRNcH+B0pnhrLu7fHxZGzmS/L4YR1Jc4sWma101XM17mBwfzhfKHz8XMhT pLC2c/j1AH53/J20SmnBZrG4niWs2nVhl+PASjwjKW8VFmRX8nC2wT8/AQK9sqY+ EEdBaRVJhB8Ywv/S9tJbU7PkolSSlPDGBQj4axuy81GeolUZEvp8D4dpSlSDGtI/ dl2M/XwehnlAuXGyG8BRD3IIftEV70XXjPfJiXoquaCiUQHwFkKQp0mFrYVHT8bQ HJJBKXXTbPHsnBFnegX2epi3WWXwI+h2sf3maqYhgjrdqL3CIDntSQ1uzlaFctCi GasX96p1D7XVkEAU+0Ee0/CMB/2jqdpDXHRylIPv24+8axh7Um74DtfePRaEwoAs 1jO5IlUPE3VA7/cgRkurtIBrtujA58xsvzRKfhZOaiAt3luTZD632zMLbrn+Rjg3 3pV68SDPdmN2Y9LVvYTfkCwMdVMsdSq33zd0CAK1OZ1cfs/wyDU= =HtO+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3uo+9/B/ebqu+fSQ--