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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Mathieu Othacehe Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.11 X-TUID: F9AeyZH+x7cE --Sig_/Yf_=4jvM1i6o+P/6xF4GeSV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludo, On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:47:25 +0200 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >=20 > Keep in mind that images use space at ftp.gnu.org and also take time to > build (having CI up-to-date helps with that, but it doesn=E2=80=99t not > eliminate build times due to the =E2=80=98update-guix-package=E2=80=99 da= nce that takes > place during =E2=80=9Cmake release=E2=80=9D.) >=20 > Likewise, if we ship more images, we should update the =E2=80=9CSystem > Installation=E2=80=9D section accordingly and be clear about what users c= an > expect. >=20 > I guess all I=E2=80=99m saying is that we should not make such decisions = lightly > and be sure to examine all the consequences. I agree. IMO there are only very few RYF-worthy ARM devices--and we should support at least those, if we support any ARM devices at all. That includes providing images for those few (at least A20-EOMA68, A?0*Olinuxino*, and Novena). 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