From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id kJ0SM9Roy17NXQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:42:28 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id UGTbLtRoy174MgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:42:28 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57D429403EE for ; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:54300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd6od-0002iu-4p for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 02:42:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd6o4-0002hx-7w for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2020 02:41:52 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:53084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jd6o3-0002gT-1s; Mon, 25 May 2020 02:41:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [188.120.128.132]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9EE7401C5; Mon, 25 May 2020 06:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:40:43 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cguix_--help?= =?utf-8?B?4oCd?= should point to https://guix.gnu.org/help/ Message-ID: <20200525064043.GA3698@E5400> References: <87blmpijrs.fsf@elephly.net> <87a71xyr77.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a71xyr77.fsf@gnu.org> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.62.234.194; envelope-from=efraim@flashner.co.il; helo=flashner.co.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/25 01:51:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.61 X-TUID: l6bf550nezkU --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:10:36PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi, >=20 > zimoun skribis: >=20 > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 12:20, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > > >> General help using GNU software: > > > > I have never read this. It is not welcoming for newcomers, IMHO. > > > > First sentence: "The Free Software Foundation does not provide > > technical support." I give up. > > Second paragraph: RTFM! Well, click, click again, I give up. > > Third: Lengthy explanations... about bug report. I give up. > > Fourth: After scrolling, click, click again, I give up. > > Or click to IRC, #guix is not mentioned, I give up. > > > > If someone reaches the help they needs by this mean, they is my hero! := -) >=20 > This is harsh, maybe unnecessarily so, but still a very valid criticism > of that page. I guess that page was created with good intentions, but > it=E2=80=99s pretty much useless indeed. :-/ >=20 > Probably we should work on the GNU side to make that page more useful, > but we should also definitely print the relevant Guix URL. >=20 > Ludo=E2=80=99. >=20 (ins)efraim@E5400 ~$ cat /etc/os-release NAME=3D"Guix System" PRETTY_NAME=3D"Guix System" VERSION=3D"1.1.0-4.bdc801e" VERSION_ID=3D"1.1" ID=3Dguix HOME_URL=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/" SUPPORT_URL=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/help/" BUG_REPORT_URL=3D"mailto:bug-guix@gnu.org" --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl7LaGgACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1H+oA/+P7UMVp87sTjPl9WDrZNm1OHEjjeWXsoO0GFBevys+Znxv9UQi8HgvGOC XAobpUCHeJ6BKt982708UPShppaY7ovZvjw3aTwkUJrIHEK1Q5vzrI6roGycsxfu jxPCJ7waHCmMQdOPBfnbN2Z0Dua4r1u1dQ8/6HrxDzqMe2grjzjOEp0QHDh/pknO e11LWmZmfpwP7w33S4YoaiRgbElXT5LVhnIq1IzWRa7MH7nYNS/MqPLSU2AzMxH3 6a8z85xsgxN0NO2IKIyL1frJPI99o46I+zvZM4aPhAlcCJ44mr5tH0GIHeRhfE+g NNIgE8+OQS4kxW3jl6wOUSBIn2vr/DGf8kOYuv5TqzonKPUH9ab+sBxw7jLx2uuG Oiv7NZX0lyekgItYlOU+bYtgk6mEPSzBjfuoKJWt4SMDKSd/GX43M8gdg9VA1/gM WkMZgJZj+dN+i5+erVJ7BQVpqxkaDAgAJPfQu0+4LASHDQwnwy/UFT7r0Uz4k3iq TeEIN00DyVRADQIjNrJcg4Hq7rrkpq+B19gNccNmgjVzWhbvPnJi+TuNxNnBm/D1 QzjVhgE2quRYSnxeaR9mUINMJTv9ZRRorn1odmkxEWLTBPNTMCMswu+ND0XWTHjD Rm+OAIZIAH/nLTB/ENXraTv4BzMIaoW1aLX3W24MtVohjhREV/g= =aqwS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e--