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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Bengt Richter Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -0.51 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-0.51 / 13.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[bokr@bokr.com]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49691986265923]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.11), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[elephly.net:email]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bokr@bokr.com,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bokr.com]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: QsAJqWAk78ue Hi, On +2020-05-06 16:25:19 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > > > While I’m sure many of us have gotten used to this I think we don’t need > > to show quite as much information. My proposal is to hide the > > “downloading from ” by default, because the URLs don’t > > really matter to users. We can unhide that bit of info when slightly > > higher verbosity is requested. > > I think it’s nice to see the URLs, or rather the host part thereof, when > using multiple substitute servers. But perhaps we can still make that > less verbose? > > Thoughts? > > Ludo’. > Just so I don't have to re-run something very timeconsuming to see the verbose version. IOW, if there isn't one, I think there ought to be a default detailed log produced (while teeing through optional verbosity/brevity filters or the user's grep. It might be nice to have an option to menumonic-tag-name the log for easier later access and review. -- Regards, Bengt Richter