From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: raingloom Subject: Re: Guix System video review on YouTube Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 02:32:39 +0200 Message-ID: <20200428023239.155844b9@riseup.net> References: <855dde2f-a7c7-d6e4-b649-a3bae60f99cb@web.de> <6222f23d-3e9e-5f47-f415-488bc18cbb1f@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTEBD-00074C-GF for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:32:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTEBC-0002RN-GB for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:32:54 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:50190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTEBB-0002RE-Sk for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:32:54 -0400 Received: from bell.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49B2fq25dDzFdbs for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49B2fp3lrRzJqXL for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:32:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6222f23d-3e9e-5f47-f415-488bc18cbb1f@web.de> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:11:05 +0200 Jonathan Brielmaier wrote: > $ echo "hello" > hello > $ guix install emacs > > Then while installing emacs, try to reach the hello. It will be tricky > as every new output line from `guix install emacs` will reset you to > the bottom of your terminal. That's annoying. > This is not related to the distribution, it's a terminal emulator default. The behavior is the same in every other distribution I've used. If they think this is a bad default, they should write on the terminal emulator's bug tracker. But then again, you usually want new (possibly quite important) messages to catch the user's attention, so I'd say it's a good default. Anyways, the option is trivial to change in the settings. You don't even have to look too hard. > So I would propose an interface like: > $ guix search vim > | Name | Synopsis | Version | Outputs > | > +---------------+--------------------------------+----------+---------+ > | vim | Text editor based on vi | 8.2.0411 | out > | | vim-airline | ... [...] Please don't, ASCII formatting always messes things up. Use the terminal for text. If you want a more visual package manager, don't use a CLI tool. A proper GUI will be more accessible. As one example, ASCII formatting makes screen readers a lot harder to use.