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From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
To: Ellen Papsch <ellen.papsch@wine-logistix.de>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unencrypted boot with encrypted root
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:44:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200403194423.m3pvz654qslug7g3@pelzflorian.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17c316adc8485d1f09f70d291cfaad50258c6c1f.camel@wine-logistix.de>

On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 05:44:13PM +0200, Ellen Papsch wrote:
> To make it harder, we leave /boot encrypted. Now the attacker plants
> their malware further down the stack: they replace the BIOS. Boom, you
> are owned! :-)

So using a single encrypted partition instead of separate /boot
protects from script kiddies (siblings/“friends”?) with hardware
access that know how to put their own grub.cfg on an unencrypted /boot
partition and then wait for you to unsuspectingly use your machine.

But it would still be possible for an attacker to flash or replace the
motherboard’s UEFI, or perhaps the part of GRUB installed on the
unaltered motherboard would willingly load a manipulated hard disk?
Or just install a keylogger.

So using the same boot partition as is done currently has

Pro: script kiddie protection

Con: passphrase must be entered twice; also entering the passphrase in
GRUB may use the wrong keyboard layout

Regards,
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-03 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02  8:59 Unencrypted boot with encrypted root Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 15:32 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03 15:44 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-03 16:13   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 17:16     ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-03 19:56       ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2020-04-04  9:02         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-05-17 15:39         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-05-20  8:49           ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2020-05-20  9:42             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 19:44   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [this message]
2020-04-04  8:12     ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-04 10:18       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-06 12:00         ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-07  9:46           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-07 11:34             ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-07 20:19               ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-08 12:37                 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-07 15:05             ` Alex Griffin
2020-04-07 16:47               ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-04-08 12:25                 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-08 15:07                   ` Alex Griffin
2020-04-08 16:22                   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-04-08  7:57               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-08 12:19                 ` Alex Griffin

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