From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: Frequent locales problems for new users Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 09:47:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20200318074733.GP927@E5400> References: <20200317202843.GA18844@jasmine.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XFI+TFG+M3u0jUjZ" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jETQs-0005Ff-1d for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:48:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jETQr-0004LX-2H for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:48:05 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:60492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jETQq-0004LN-Se for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:48:05 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200317202843.GA18844@jasmine.lan> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Leo Famulari Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --XFI+TFG+M3u0jUjZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 04:28:43PM -0400, Leo Famulari wrote: > Warning! Locales! New users seem to have trouble with Guix locales every > day. >=20 > I think we can improve the situation. >=20 > First, we can deprecate the glibc-utf8-locales package and not mention > it in the manual section Application Setup. I've seen users think they > had to install it in order to get UTF-8 support. Everyone should be > using glibc-locales. Eventually we can rename it to > 'glibc-locales-for-tests', and hide the package too. >=20 > Second, we need to make sure that guix-install.sh is setting up > GUIX_LOCPATH correctly. I see that the binary tarball's store includes > glibc-utf8-locales, so it should be possible for things to "just work", > ignoring that it's the wrong locales package. Does anyone know any > particular issues with the installer that would cause trouble? I haven't setup a new install or helped people with one in a while so bear with me. IIRC there are two times it's needed, once for the daemon, and we already added the environment variable to the systemd unit, and once for each user. I think making it Just Work=E2=84=A2 with the daemon wo= uld be really good at a minimum. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --XFI+TFG+M3u0jUjZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl5x0hQACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1ELZA/9EtogqgTcyquTJDO9zF4QdeEZ6+7GmHEDah/6aruMFQcBDJNsEtInfvnv CY1x1utsyPivEbXFkdGgFpswNXgygyIqGi6s6ES1FcBbSgFJKC0jdgnz+JWNeE5s nK6LFsbJUzZM314a0WgxBrH3Lpgox04X6EuH6GBAXbAbq+ar28FdNcliSSANOS9d 2uLjxFlyGZDHxoid7Xqxk7do6MspH1tRnvR28Jnts7SJt8l3eMEwKbZgVJLAVHqH bhLW/c0/vJ+XivtKCjgEGrfz5cKu3uNx3CMDrY5I4S0YgwDx4/xXMD7wX6jaxvEA FKSiMmRIRyP0qIlciKIMGQhN8nXlwwAXNGU05K6KylWaHseUNBSRegoLqLCn5PMt 41KaAAK5Iod2MkAQaZ8AToSgwQprzhcFFSQoi2bDqi1evT96ITF0zen4vOL4odZ6 /uroFsepC4JEQeY6Vi/8OaBGlt4Yxvwbw+2JYXXWdL4OIBsLQWKU1NcZmCAJ9PNt JBhc53FZe1Uf50iWh67zOkDrcQ5YDfxtCO+WDYXy3klTEqSoUCTjZtvpOLiISVGI MHFqF5CIrMMMroczTW9DXIx1Z0I+JVzeboSR5oEHlzWQVPGl/BFVHIRsHdahcLdN vRUG/o/Kb+I+fTMgmrZ3l3HIKI/4gqe64dxMskJvfIaE7rKKTuA= =8sV6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XFI+TFG+M3u0jUjZ--