From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jan <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl> Subject: Re: Maintaining Jami #3 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:53:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20200120155324.00935fdc@kompiuter> References: <20200107130521.5a781f53@kompiuter> <20200119005543.0f86942a@interia.pl> <87ftgbu7ik.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: <guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl>) id 1itYQt-0006nv-LK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:53:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl>) id 1itYQs-0008Fk-Dw for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl ([217.74.65.156]:46682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl>) id 1itYQr-0008Eg-R4 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 09:53:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ftgbu7ik.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." <guix-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/guix-devel>, <mailto:guix-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel> List-Post: <mailto:guix-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:guix-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guix-devel>, <mailto:guix-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" <guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org I didn't really answer your questions earlier, sorry. On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:20:51 +0100 Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I tested the Jami package we have in upstream Guix: > > - It fails to start on my desktop, it only works on my laptop. What do you mean by desktop, is it even a difference for the OS and the application? > - The client kept disconnecting. I could send a few text messages > here and there, but most of them didn't go through. For me it works, I test it in my local network though. The problem begins when you try communicating with someone behind a strong NAT, firewall or a badly configured network. Based on my previous experience I think that's normal - it have never worked well enough, because ISPs don't want you to have control over your networking - client-server applications work well, but p2p are broken. Often router firmware is buggy, outdated and malicious as nonfree software is. > - I could not give an audio or video call Works on my machine, except for the bug caused by screen sharing. > - I can receive text messages perfectly. This one works. > - I can receive calls, but when I click on the "pick up" button, Jami > crashes. Maybe its something hardware specific or depends on the client you call with - I have no problem answering calls made from Android. > In general, Jami crashed _a lot_. I wonder if it's upstream or if we > have something wrong with our package. > > Did you have a similar experience? > Does your work fix any of those issues? > I tested 20200115 version now, and it pretty much works the same. Anyway I fixed my private branch and can continue working, but see no point in waiting. What DE are you using? I could try it on my machine. If you run it on top of Wayland, then you should know Jami is currently broken on Wayland, they work on fixing it. Aaaand even if client-gnome will continue being broken like this, they're working on porting client-windows(Qt) to GNU/Linux and there's a possibility it won't be broken as well. Jan Wielkiewicz