From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jan Subject: Re: Proposal for Outreachy (May-August 2020) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 19:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: <20200107190658.5f35fcbe@kompiuter> References: <229482977533dfdcef5a2d60bbc94aee@disroot.org> <4961cfee44055bbb285157a76158f274@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iotG8-000838-Rx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 13:07:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iotG7-0001lR-Nx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 13:07:16 -0500 Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl ([217.74.65.236]:38706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iotG7-0001in-4F for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 13:07:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4961cfee44055bbb285157a76158f274@disroot.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Raghav Gururajan Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hi! On Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:32:10 +0000 "Raghav Gururajan" wrote: > Hello Guix Folks! > > 1) Improve GNOME Software Stack and GNOME Desktop Environment's > user-experience in Guix. > In my opinion we should stay away from GNOME, because it is a Red Hat project, rather than GNU now. More than this, GNOME makes some bad for user freedom decisions, for example they promote nonfree software in their "Software" application. They also promote nonfree services such as Facebook, Google mail, etc. in their "Online accounts" application. They also make some poor design decisions such as adding support for flatpak, which is going to have support for "paid", which most probably means nonfree applications and they add more and more systemd-only features (systemd's problem is feature creep, software bloat, uncooperative developers and merging projects into systemd, without any reason). That's why I would like to see XFCE being improved rather than GNOME. Ideally both GNOME and XFCE should work well on Guix, but if we have to choose between those two, I vote for XFCE. But that's my private opinion, it'd be better, if Guix maintainers told what they think about it. Jan Wielkiewicz