From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 16:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: <20191012143833.GX15371@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <87zhibiqka.fsf@gnu.org> <8736g3k4hd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20191010040011.GU20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <87pnj5i3u2.fsf@elephly.net> <20191010051730.GA27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <87d0f4y8qz.fsf@gnu.org> <3e7d86bcb247619ecabf19318e68b576ad5da291.camel@gmail.com> <550194FB-102B-4796-974A-18028C03848A@gnu.support> <3Eu4E-F8aPpRXQrn1QtCVNRziOcK9SGcpbKCNrsbT8B7khu794xQGeT6YmwPC0fHyoGL6IO950ei1M96vA_3AALQv5e9AKp3ACI7yCbjfEw=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Wilson Bustos Cc: P , "help-guix@gnu.org" , "guix-devel@gnu.org" , "svante.signell@gmail.com" , GNU Guix maintainers List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org * Wilson Bustos [2019-10-10 22:52]: > P, > > And even before this incident, I've seen people say they don't want to > get into free software because of Stallman's behaviour and because people > defend him from any criticism. > So, why didn't you do anything before? why now? If it was a real issue that > would happen in before, not now. GNU project is apolitical. No politics other but free software please. Guix people, stop with the feminism movement in GNU projects, open up your feminists websites and speak what you want. But use your money please, not FSF's please. I did not pay much money, but I did pay for Guix. Would I know they are to try to hurt GNU community by introducing their political views, I would never. > > Don't put Stallman on a pedestal, he is not perfect, and just because he > founded GNU doesn't mean he should lead it forever or that he should have > final say in everything. Stallman will always lead GNU, be it alive or dead, because he has established free software philosophy by which FSF acts, and by which free software exists. He is now doing important actions such as planning or influencing decision makers, something that simple programmers sitting behind their keyboards cannot understand. See: https://www.zdnet.com/article/free-software-advocate-richard-stallman-spoke-at-microsoft-research-this-week/ > I think that is not the problem, no one is perfect, that is why no one > needs to be perfect to represent a group as GNU, then, RMS doesn't need to > be removed because he is not perfect, right? GNU project is not about being perfect but about efficiency in providing free software. GNU is functional in itself, it need no feminism or anti fascists or nazis to help, no politics is welcome in GNU project as GNU software is for everybody. See freedom zero at https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and promote freedom zero also in the behavior of developers. > Also, why use the official Guix website to show that statement, > there is a vote of all the members to do that? There is no vote, they are dictators. It is not democracy. > p.s: I'm sorry for text this also, but I don't believe in a SJW > speech. Sorry I am getting old to understand SJW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior "Social justice warrior" (SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism,[1][2] as well as identity politics.[3] The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and engaging in disingenuous arguments.[5] OK fine, now I get it, that is exactly what GNU project is not for! GNU project is for everybody, it is not a platform to be abused by feminists or any kind of political activists! > p.s2: A social network text message proof of nothing. Exactly! Jean Louis P.S. Please don't make abort() jokes or you are not welcome in Guix.