From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:05:02 +0200 Message-ID: <20191012120502.GB15371@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <8736g3k4hd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20191010040011.GU20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <87pnj5i3u2.fsf@elephly.net> <20191010051730.GA27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <87d0f4y8qz.fsf@gnu.org> <3e7d86bcb247619ecabf19318e68b576ad5da291.camel@gmail.com> <550194FB-102B-4796-974A-18028C03848A@gnu.support> <3Eu4E-F8aPpRXQrn1QtCVNRziOcK9SGcpbKCNrsbT8B7khu794xQGeT6YmwPC0fHyoGL6IO950ei1M96vA_3AALQv5e9AKp3ACI7yCbjfEw=@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-system-discuss-bounces+gcgs-gnu-system-discuss=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "gnu-system-discuss" To: Vasya Boytsov Cc: P , Info GNU , "help-guix@gnu.org" , Libreplanet Discuss , GNU System Discuss , "guix-devel@gnu.org" , Wilson Bustos , GNU Guix maintainers List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org * Vasya Boytsov [2019-10-10 23:03]: > I kindly ask to remove this statement from the Guix site. It's > inappropriate, it's poisonous for the community (you can see this > clearly now). Anyone can have their own opinion in this discussion, > but _PLEASE_ can we divide OS development and politics? > There are more appropriate places to post such statements. Having this > post on a _Guix_ website is very bad for community health. > I want to continue using Guix and contribute some packages, but with > such a political involvement I can't. See my answer here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2019-10/msg00037.ht= ml That is exactly the problem and the problem was solved but just not respected by those few who are taking stance on their politics, in this case feminism movement, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and Andy Wingo and othe= r supporters of the pro-feminist politics have published their pro-feminist statement here: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ and have not openly said what it is, neither stated the fact, but tried to bring GNU community down for reasons of Thoughtcrime[1]. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s said to me that reasons are of feminist nature: - abort() joke, see the IRC log where he said to me it is about abort joke and "MIT episode": http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2019-10-07.log search for "abort". - see another evidence here where he introduces feminism stances on Emacs Virgin jokes: http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2019-10-07.log Basically RMS is guilty of Thoughtcrime[1] and they (those proponent of feminism movement) would like GNU without people who think different. GNU project was always a apolitical and independent. That is why there is freedom zero that anybody can use software for whatever purposes they wish. For example somebody could use free software, GPL licensed, to abort() or prevent-abortion(), or to spy, create wars or prevent wars, publish nazi propaganda or anti-fascist propaganda. By introducing politics other but free software into GNU project pages, those pro-feminist group of GNU maintainers have tried to make GNU project political. Jean Louis Footnotes: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime