From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thorsten Wilms Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:56:41 +0200 Message-ID: <20191010185641.15993255964af7fa6d598281@freenet.de> References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhibiqka.fsf@gnu.org> <8736g3k4hd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20191010040011.GU20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <87pnj5i3u2.fsf@elephly.net> <20191010051730.GA27628@protected.rcdrun.com> <87d0f4y8qz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIbmP-00068a-56 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:59:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIbmN-0006VY-Tu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:59:08 -0400 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:3]:58400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIbmN-0006V9-O1 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:59:07 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.165] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.92 #3) id 1iIbmJ-0008HD-Km for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:59:03 +0200 Received: from [::1] (port=41948 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (Exim 4.92 #3) id 1iIbmJ-0008OP-K8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:59:03 +0200 Received: from sub6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.125]:37872) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (Exim 4.92 #3) id 1iIbk2-0006m1-Ic for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:56:42 +0200 Received: from p200300e4f7019200f86594696242d1c2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([2003:e4:f701:9200:f865:9469:6242:d1c2]:39424 helo=charly) by sub6.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID t_w_@freenet.de) (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.92 #3) id 1iIbk1-0007dr-Oh for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:56:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87d0f4y8qz.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:29:08 +0200 Ludovic Court=E8s wrote: > My sincere apologies to all the Guix people who are witnessing > this. :-( After initial enthusiasm, the CoC issue and the reaction to the GNU Kind Communications Guideline already convinced me that I should better keep a fair bit of distance. Thus I don't even want to belong to Guix people, but I'm still an observer. Not that anyone should care. I don't get what made you guys start Guix as GNU project, if you have such an issue with Stallman (which I do understand)? The timing of the announcement makes you appear to join ranks with people who are repeating lies. If one can't keep a few quotes straight, I'm not inclined to believe the rest that's harder to evaluate. It also makes it look like kicking a man when he's already down. Then having it on a GNU domain and posting the announcement to a list where the matter should not be discussed is ... at least unwise, if not disingenious. So I have some sympathy with Jean Louis, as silly as the idea of Guix being anything without you is. --=20 Thorsten Wilms