From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 05:51:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20191010035131.GR20430@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <20191008081928.mcg7oxb3q5jp6nhr@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20191008123253.00a44e6b@kompiuter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIPUI-0007t4-SK for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 23:51:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIPUH-0002YR-GO for Guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 23:51:38 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191008123253.00a44e6b@kompiuter> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Jan Cc: Guix-devel , Jesse Gibbons , GNU Guix maintainers * Jan [2019-10-08 06:33]: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 10:19:28 +0200 > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote: > > > Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about? =20 > >=20 > > Perhaps > > https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41= e784f88 > >=20 > > Thank you, GNU maintainers, for your statement. > >=20 > > Regards, > > Florian > >=20 >=20 > I would like to note a lot of articles on the Internet purposely > misquote Stallman. For example this header from your link: > "Renowned MIT Scientist Defends Epstein: Victims Were =E2=80=98Entirely > Willing=E2=80=99". > He didn't defend Epstein, he had actually called him a "serial rapist" > earlier, also in the mail he didn't say "victims", note the plural. He > also said the victim could be *presented* to Minsky as entirely willing= , > he didn't say she actually was. Language is a really subtle tool and > small things like this can make a big change. That is right. Facts here: https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/09/30/in-defense-of-richard-stallman/ > So please, be careful, when reading those articles and judge wisely, > especially because the situation is a really delicate matter. They are not judging wisely. That is a fact too. They have joined the mob as they know nothing better. > I also found the link to arguments defending Stallman: > https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ >=20 > I don't really know what should I think about all of this, but it > would be a bit unjust if Stallman didn't have any defense, even if he > made a mistake. There is no defense in their new community. I hope they start calling it GNG or GNU is Not GNU. > Hope I won't get excluded from the project, because of my opinion, You see, that is exactly the fear, if you have different opinion you are in fear to get excluded from GNU. In radio and newspapers business one says that if one person expresses opinion in writing, one has to think of 1000 other people who has the same opinion, they just could not express themselves. That is happening because those people are abusing GNU project for the hostile take over. I am asking those people who are pretending to represent all of the GNU project and who are defaming and slandering RMS[1] to step down and resign, do your software hacking somewhere else, you do not deserve funding that RMS is giving you. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s, Ricardo Wurmus, Matt Lee, Andreas Enge, Samuel Thibault, Carlos O'Donell, Andy Wingo, Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez Hermoso, Mark Wielaard, Ian Lance Taylor, Werner Koch, Daiki Ueno, Christopher Lemmer Webber, Jan Nieuwenhuizen, John Wiegley, Tom Tromey, Jeff Law, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Joshua Gay, Ian Jackson, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, Andrej Shadura, Zack Weinberg, John W. Eaton, RESIGN and step down from GNU projects, disassociate yourself, find another house for your excessive and uncrontollable fear of the free speech. Jean