From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0@n0.is Subject: Re: Guix trademarked by Express Logic Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:33:35 +0000 Message-ID: <20190311213335.ybjika3lacbe6eyd@uptimegirl> References: <86d0mxgrw5.fsf@jlicht.xyz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3SZM-0008NA-74 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:34:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3SYN-0004sk-9C for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:33:49 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:48328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3SYM-0004rU-5c for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:33:47 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86d0mxgrw5.fsf@jlicht.xyz> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Jelle Licht Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Jelle Licht transcribed 1.9K bytes: > mikadoZero writes: > > > I have search guix-devel for this and did not find it. I would like to > > [ snip ] > Thanks for looking into this. > > > # Proactive name change > > > > Looking at the pug thread above shows that it would have been nice if > > Jade had not been forced to change their name so quickly and could have > > engaged it's community further on ideas for a new name. > > > > This raises the idea that proactively changing Guix's name might be > > better than reacting to a forced name change. A benefit to a proactive > > name change is being able to chose the timing. So for example the name > > change could be planned to coincide with the 1.0 release which I have > > heard is approaching. Similar to a butterfly emerging from a > > chrysalis. Maybe there is a opportunity here and this could be turned > > into a nice announcement. > > I humbly disagree with proactively doing anything of the sorts; first of > all, there are two separate issues (as you mentioned): > - Are we allowed to call Guix Guix? > - Do we want to call Guix Guix? > > As such, I think it is premature to proactively change something which > *might* not even be a (legal) problem at all, let alone something > desired by the community. I *do* agree that these questions should > probably be answered before 1.0 comes around. > > > [ snip ] > > # Contacting Express Logic > > > > Also it might be good to reach out to Express Logic as they may not > > actually have any problem with the Guix free software project using the > > name they have trademarked. > > I really think that "software" is much too broad a category to consider > for a trademark clash in this case. From what I can see, there is barely > any overlap between our Guix and the GUIX product that Express Logic is > working on. This might just be my vocational bias in action as a > software engineer though, and of course; I Am Not A Lawyer. The other Guix keeps coming up over the years. I don't think we have to do anyting because it's 2 separate fields of software. No problem unless one of the Guix starts making it one. > > > > # Summary > > > > I am not recommending any specific course of action. I just want to > > start a discussion. > > Point taken :-). > >