From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tonton Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 00:54:54 +0100 Message-ID: <20181030005454.0c3fe335@merlin.browniehive.net> References: <11169507.O9o76ZdvQC@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <87pnvt9fhz.fsf@gmail.com> <3893574.yNgoui0T1j@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHHN6-0003WK-Fa for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:55:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHHN5-0001QH-JS for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:55:00 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:34300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHHN5-0001Pq-BO for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:54:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3893574.yNgoui0T1j@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: HiPhish Cc: alex.sassmannshausen@gmail.com, guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:50:05 +0100 HiPhish wrote: > On Monday, 29 October 2018 12:08:56 CET you wrote: > > I think you a have burden of proof here, given that our culture at large > > has serious issues with harassment. Why would you think FLOSS community > > is somehow different from the wider community? > No, you have a burden of proof that "our" culture (whatever this "our" is > supposed to mean, I have no idea where you live and you have no idea where > I live) has a serious issue with harassment. You, me, Alex and the rest of Guix share a culture. I'm assuming that is the culture Alex refers to, not the cultures of our distinct offline locale. Also, the burden of proof really is with HiPhish. Harassment in tech, and FLOSS especially has been well documented. See for example: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/FLOSS https://lwn.net/Articles/417952/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/05/open_source_developer_survey_2017/ for a start.